Unused race cars

Tom P · 01-17-2020, 04:20 PM

Seems like this DragPak Challenger would have been better off racing for the past ten years than sitting in a collectors garage. $39,600, I think that included the buyers premium so deduct that, the sellers fee, etc...

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...ACE-CAR-235925

Anyone know what percentage of Cobra Jets, COPOs and DragPaks actually made it to the stip?

ken robinson · 01-17-2020, 04:50 PM

That looks like somebody got a good deal . Forgot the sticker price . My bet is on 15 - 20 % got into parked collections . The ones that get raced with a winning record might bring more money . Only time will tell.

Floyd Staggs · 01-18-2020, 11:26 AM

The Demons are still bringing decent money at the auction.

Steve Stasko · 01-18-2020, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Floyd Staggs

The Demons are still bringing decent money at the auction.

Because they can be titled and tagged for the street. A 75 year old retiree can't drive a V-10 Drag Pak to his local "cars and coffee" event for everyone to oooh and ahhh over.

340Cuda · 01-18-2020, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

Because they can be titled and tagged for the street.

With a three warranty to boot! The new Demons are incredible cars.

Al Wilson · 01-18-2020, 04:44 PM

This one at Mecums Kissimmee sold for $40,700 the week before. This for comparison of a used race car.

Andys dad · 01-19-2020, 01:03 PM

I have been hesitant to post here but here is some accurate information and believe me I should know.

46 out of 50 sold in the one year only build.
They cost $104,000 with belts and window net.
No VIN - can't be registered. Can not get a title on them - no manufacture certificate of completion - Bill of Sale only)
Only 6 got run more than once. - so 87% sat.

Ours has been the most heavily campaigned. (Top Gear Show, magazines, calendars -- so what) 2 divisional wins - 1 Nat Open win - 2 final rounds at Nat events

At least two bought $30K Barton motors - only to ridiculously bang it out of competition in stock and hurt it in SS - but we carry on - we know what we have.

Ours maintained the small tire configuration (even with a TB) - one of Teuton's did not.

Now for IMHO - (IN My Humble Opinion) this is tough love but -

The V10 drag pak is NOT a race car hence at a collector car auction. Race cars are not collector cars until they are about 40 years old.

Every piece of safety equipment would need to be upgraded because of dates.
It had the wrong converter.
The suspension (springs and shocks) needs to be reworked by someone like Phil Mandella at PMR.
Need to spend countless hours working through SCT to obtain the original CAL and software in order to update the tune - which had a significant stumble. Of course you could spend $5k for a MOTEC ECU but it turns out V10 dodges are not that popular with them or anybody else.
The trans gear and rear end gear ratios were incorrect.

We spent more than $39k on our last SS motors (unfortunately two - now a third). V10 parts are hens teeth and people who work on them are like frog hairs.

The collector car auctions with people in their "fine" sipping cocktails are not there to buy a race car.

Ours is not for sale but my reserve would be $150k and we would lose money and a life adventure.

See you in Phoenix and Tucson.

Ron

01-17-2020, 04:20 PM	#1
Tom P Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 707 Likes: 30 Liked 239 Times in 94 Posts	Unused race cars Seems like this DragPak Challenger would have been better off racing for the past ten years than sitting in a collectors garage. $39,600, I think that included the buyers premium so deduct that, the sellers fee, etc... https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...ACE-CAR-235925 Anyone know what percentage of Cobra Jets, COPOs and DragPaks actually made it to the stip?

01-17-2020, 04:50 PM	#2
ken robinson Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: tomsriver nj Posts: 477 Likes: 74 Liked 213 Times in 85 Posts	Re: Unused race cars That looks like somebody got a good deal . Forgot the sticker price . My bet is on 15 - 20 % got into parked collections . The ones that get raced with a winning record might bring more money . Only time will tell.

01-18-2020, 11:26 AM	#3
Floyd Staggs VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cucamonga, CA Posts: 1,522 Likes: 146 Liked 229 Times in 99 Posts	Re: Unused race cars The Demons are still bringing decent money at the auction. __________________ Floyd Staggs 787 SST

01-18-2020, 04:44 PM	#6
Al Wilson Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Dunnellon, FL Posts: 75 Likes: 158 Liked 109 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Unused race cars This one at Mecums Kissimmee sold for $40,700 the week before. This for comparison of a used race car. __________________ Al Wilson NSS 7160 W201 stock Last edited by Al Wilson; 01-18-2020 at 04:47 PM.

01-19-2020, 01:03 PM	#7
Andys dad VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arcadia, Ca Posts: 1,571 Likes: 48 Liked 175 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Unused race cars I have been hesitant to post here but here is some accurate information and believe me I should know. 46 out of 50 sold in the one year only build. They cost $104,000 with belts and window net. No VIN - can't be registered. Can not get a title on them - no manufacture certificate of completion - Bill of Sale only) Only 6 got run more than once. - so 87% sat. Ours has been the most heavily campaigned. (Top Gear Show, magazines, calendars -- so what) 2 divisional wins - 1 Nat Open win - 2 final rounds at Nat events At least two bought $30K Barton motors - only to ridiculously bang it out of competition in stock and hurt it in SS - but we carry on - we know what we have. Ours maintained the small tire configuration (even with a TB) - one of Teuton's did not. Now for IMHO - (IN My Humble Opinion) this is tough love but - The V10 drag pak is NOT a race car hence at a collector car auction. Race cars are not collector cars until they are about 40 years old. Every piece of safety equipment would need to be upgraded because of dates. It had the wrong converter. The suspension (springs and shocks) needs to be reworked by someone like Phil Mandella at PMR. Need to spend countless hours working through SCT to obtain the original CAL and software in order to update the tune - which had a significant stumble. Of course you could spend $5k for a MOTEC ECU but it turns out V10 dodges are not that popular with them or anybody else. The trans gear and rear end gear ratios were incorrect. We spent more than $39k on our last SS motors (unfortunately two - now a third). V10 parts are hens teeth and people who work on them are like frog hairs. The collector car auctions with people in their "fine" sipping cocktails are not there to buy a race car. Ours is not for sale but my reserve would be $150k and we would lose money and a life adventure. See you in Phoenix and Tucson. Ron __________________ time is our most precious resource, you can always make more money but you can never make more time spend your time wisely with the ones you love - Ron Durham Last edited by Andys dad; 01-19-2020 at 01:13 PM.