Change the Way the National Championship ?

Don Kennedy · 11-15-2019, 09:12 AM

I feel the time has come to change the format for the National Championship Points race. In my opinion, I would like to have a year-end Race with Super Stock, Stock, Super Gas, and Super Comp. The top five in each class and in each division would all show up for the playoffs or I mean National Championship.
In all sports, there is a Playoff series at the end of the season to see who earns the right as the champion. This way an amateur would only have to travel to 5 division races. to win the right to the playoff race to crown the champion.Maybe everyone is ok with the way it is now ? any other opinions ?

jmcarter · 11-15-2019, 09:40 AM

I soured on the “playoff” format long time ago when Mike Edwards lost the PS championship after running away from the pack during the ‘regular’ season. It adds more drama of course but to me the racer who has the best season should be the champ and the current format provides that. Also think the JEGS Allstars provides the opportunity for racers to gain recognition and still stick to running Divisionals. Under the suggested format a class racer could win every National event they enter, have no success at Divisional races and not make the playoffs.

Actually like the current format even if sometimes there’s not much drama at the Pomona Finals (the Vegas LODRS did; however, provide plenty of drama to the Divisional championships).

Mark Markow · 11-15-2019, 10:14 AM

I don't like the whole playoff/ countdown idea . imagine yourself dominating the early part of the season , and then having all those points dismissed and having to start over? I also believe the racer with the most consistent strong finishes should win the title.

Mike Pearson · 11-15-2019, 10:22 AM

Dumb idea.

Floyd Staggs · 11-15-2019, 10:34 AM

They do it in the Summit ET series. Finalists from all 7 divisions come to Pomona to claim the national championship.

Bill Grubbs · 11-15-2019, 10:51 AM

Lets have the final race in Gainesville, and Stockers can start at 7 AM...you know 4 AM west coast time... Yea that's the ticket.

Or maybe Epping in November...we can stay until the weather is nice enough to race...
The winner would be whoever could stay the longest. Kind of like whoever is the last person with their hand on the car wins it.

jamie2370 · 11-15-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Floyd Staggs

They do it in the Summit ET series. Finalists from all 7 divisions come to Pomona to claim the national championship.

No, only the Division Champions got to Pomona. It is a 7 car race. And they get paid to show up and purse is winner takes all.

James Perrone · 11-15-2019, 11:10 AM

What’s so unfair the way the system is now?
It seems fine the way it is.

Kevin Panzino · 11-15-2019, 11:14 AM

No change needed.

BKSG1198 · 11-15-2019, 11:17 AM

I think IHRA did that and was great for the most part (I think the Top 3 in each Division got in) then they made it whoever won a race made it in and I think that put the kabosh on it because guys would run one race, win and then not support the series the rest of the year till the finals at VMP or Memphis and a lot of racers were like WTF. I do think the way the points & car counts are calculated should be changed. For example in Top Sportsman & Dragster in D7 they take 48 & 64 cars at some divisional races which turns into a 105 to win whereas a D1 race takes 32 and its 95 to win so a 10 point swing can mean a lot in the final standings.

11-15-2019, 09:12 AM	#1
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 904 Times in 237 Posts	Change the Way the National Championship ? I feel the time has come to change the format for the National Championship Points race. In my opinion, I would like to have a year-end Race with Super Stock, Stock, Super Gas, and Super Comp. The top five in each class and in each division would all show up for the playoffs or I mean National Championship. In all sports, there is a Playoff series at the end of the season to see who earns the right as the champion. This way an amateur would only have to travel to 5 division races. to win the right to the playoff race to crown the champion.Maybe everyone is ok with the way it is now ? any other opinions ? __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS

11-15-2019, 09:40 AM	#2
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,305 Likes: 2,409 Liked 3,218 Times in 980 Posts	Re: Change the Way the National Championship ? I soured on the “playoff” format long time ago when Mike Edwards lost the PS championship after running away from the pack during the ‘regular’ season. It adds more drama of course but to me the racer who has the best season should be the champ and the current format provides that. Also think the JEGS Allstars provides the opportunity for racers to gain recognition and still stick to running Divisionals. Under the suggested format a class racer could win every National event they enter, have no success at Divisional races and not make the playoffs. Actually like the current format even if sometimes there’s not much drama at the Pomona Finals (the Vegas LODRS did; however, provide plenty of drama to the Divisional championships). __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

11-15-2019, 10:14 AM	#3
Mark Markow Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: east hartford ct. Posts: 539 Likes: 0 Liked 9 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Change the Way the National Championship ? I don't like the whole playoff/ countdown idea . imagine yourself dominating the early part of the season , and then having all those points dismissed and having to start over? I also believe the racer with the most consistent strong finishes should win the title. __________________ Mark Markow 171 ss/tb

11-15-2019, 10:22 AM	#4
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,457 Likes: 620 Liked 1,945 Times in 586 Posts	Re: Change the Way the National Championship ? Dumb idea. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

11-15-2019, 10:34 AM	#5
Floyd Staggs VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cucamonga, CA Posts: 1,522 Likes: 157 Liked 229 Times in 99 Posts	Re: Change the Way the National Championship ? They do it in the Summit ET series. Finalists from all 7 divisions come to Pomona to claim the national championship. __________________ Floyd Staggs 787 SST

11-15-2019, 10:51 AM	#6
Bill Grubbs Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 416 Likes: 3 Liked 564 Times in 66 Posts	Re: Change the Way the National Championship ? Lets have the final race in Gainesville, and Stockers can start at 7 AM...you know 4 AM west coast time... Yea that's the ticket. Or maybe Epping in November...we can stay until the weather is nice enough to race... The winner would be whoever could stay the longest. Kind of like whoever is the last person with their hand on the car wins it.

11-15-2019, 11:10 AM	#8
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,690 Likes: 3,401 Liked 1,842 Times in 429 Posts	Re: Change the Way the National Championship ? What’s so unfair the way the system is now? It seems fine the way it is. __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

11-15-2019, 11:14 AM	#9
Kevin Panzino Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 580 Likes: 298 Liked 759 Times in 139 Posts	Re: Change the Way the National Championship ? No change needed.

11-15-2019, 11:17 AM	#10
BKSG1198 VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vineland, NJ Posts: 2,637 Likes: 96 Liked 1,293 Times in 395 Posts	Re: Change the Way the National Championship ? I think IHRA did that and was great for the most part (I think the Top 3 in each Division got in) then they made it whoever won a race made it in and I think that put the kabosh on it because guys would run one race, win and then not support the series the rest of the year till the finals at VMP or Memphis and a lot of racers were like WTF. I do think the way the points & car counts are calculated should be changed. For example in Top Sportsman & Dragster in D7 they take 48 & 64 cars at some divisional races which turns into a 105 to win whereas a D1 race takes 32 and its 95 to win so a 10 point swing can mean a lot in the final standings.