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Old 07-25-2018, 10:13 PM   #1
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I am just wondering how stock racers feel about lowering the indexes. We have been given many upgrades yet the indexes stay the same. There are many that can run a second under and have to detune at races. The AHFS was designed for new cars and under rated combos. It does not take into the fact of people who work hard , test and spend lots of money to make their car go fast. So what do the people who race stock ... 1 or 2 tenths. Most everyone can run that far under. .. Thanks.
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Old 07-25-2018, 10:59 PM   #2
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Not a fan of the idea.
I know of several people wanting to get into Stock Eliminator right now for the first time.
That idea could cause some possible newbies to lose interest because it just raises the costs.


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Old 07-25-2018, 11:07 PM   #3
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Gary: There has been a lot of upgrades for Stock, but NHRA did the upgrades for the sake of making it easier or not having to check the parts associated with the upgrade. One upgrade that NHRA pushed through is allowing solid lifters where hydraulic lifters where and no HP added if you changed over either. I have a factory solid lifter engine and I didn't get any upgrade from NHRA's decision. So, for me to take one or two tenths away would be total "NO". NHRA should be more aggressive on doing their job of policing the HP of all the cars, we all pay for that service through our membership and entry fees.


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Old 07-26-2018, 07:33 AM   #4
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The way track prep is some times overlooked and people spin at the start, maybe they should add a tenth or two. Or NHRA could make traction control legal for all cars not just the EFI cars.

I'm hoping Indy track prep will be great so everyone will have the best chance to qualify for the "Big Go"
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I am just wondering how stock racers feel about lowering the indexes. We have been given many upgrades yet the indexes stay the same. There are many that can run a second under and have to detune at races. The AHFS was designed for new cars and under rated combos. It does not take into the fact of people who work hard , test and spend lots of money to make their car go fast. So what do the people who race stock ... 1 or 2 tenths. Most everyone can run that far under. .. Thanks.
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The indexes were lowered 3 tenths several years ago and it hurt the car counts. Some of the low budget guys parked their cars after that enhancement. I don't think lowering the indexes is a good idea. The smart move is for NHRA to better monitor the performance of the cars that consistently run at the top of the sheet and apply good sense in the factoring.
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Old 07-26-2018, 08:19 AM   #6
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The smart move is for NHRA to better monitor the performance of the cars that consistently run at the top of the sheet and apply good sense in the factoring.
There ya go!
And at the same time, stop certain Racers from "gaming" the system.
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And at the same time, stop certain Racers from "gaming" the system.
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:06 AM   #8
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The indexes were lowered 3 tenths several years ago and it hurt the car counts. Some of the low budget guys parked their cars after that enhancement. I don't think lowering the indexes is a good idea. The smart move is for NHRA to better monitor the performance of the cars that consistently run at the top of the sheet and apply good sense in the factoring.
Good sense from NHRA...........LOL !
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:53 AM   #9
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Or NHRA could make traction control legal for all cars not just the EFI cars.

Since when is traction control legal on an EFI car. i believe you are talking about taking timing out at the hit or on fly by wire cars can program how much throttle % basically an electronic throttle stop, non EFI cars do this also but just old school mechanical stop. I know the black FAST box with traction control is not legal in stock. So what did you mean by EFI cars have traction control am i missing something?
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:54 AM   #10
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The indexes were lowered 3 tenths several years ago and it hurt the car counts. Some of the low budget guys parked their cars after that enhancement. I don't think lowering the indexes is a good idea. The smart move is for NHRA to better monitor the performance of the cars that consistently run at the top of the sheet and apply good sense in the factoring.

Agreed! Great post.
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