location of two step button in a stocker

Bill Bogues · 05-17-2015, 02:28 AM

Does the switch for the two step have to be mounted on the brake pedal or can you put it somewhere else, like on the shifter console?

Kegracing · 05-17-2015, 09:30 AM

Both N and I HRA changed rule a few years ago, and you must have 2 step activated by brake pedal. Can use electric switch on pedal or brake pressure switch.
I have a simple pressure switch, think from Jegs if I remember right, that is plumbed inline on a brake line.
There are some really nice switches that are adjustable for brake pressure to activate/release also.
I have a toggle switch for on/off so it does not effect my burnout. Some have a switch on shifter also, so it is only activated in low gear. I am running a Mallory ignition, and have an RPM window switch programmed, so if I hit brakes on top end, it does not activate.

Good luck.

Ken

Stock 412

Bill Bogues · 05-17-2015, 03:13 PM

Thank,s Ken that's what I wanted to know

Tim Ellis · 05-17-2015, 08:39 PM

Ken I'm not trying to cause problems, as I see you are definitely trying to help. But what is to stop someone from deactivating their 2 step with the off/ on switch instead of the pressure switch. Say you created the required presuure to activate the 2 step, then just turned off the switch to launch? Don't get me wrong , I completely sympathize with not wanting the 2 step to come on at the wrong time, but wouldn't the switch let the 2 step release as well?

Tim Quintin/Cole s/g · 05-17-2015, 09:06 PM

Yes, We run a two step switch on our brake pedal on our stocker..

Bob Mulry · 05-17-2015, 09:17 PM

Pretty simple fix....

Just wire the 2 step thru a Normally Open micro switch that is located to be closed when the shifter in Low Gear....

The 2 step will only activate in low gear...

If you use have to start your burn out in Low Gear just put the pressure switch in the rear brake hydraulic circuit......

Bob

Eman · 05-18-2015, 08:36 AM

Don't know if it's legal in stock classes but i use a momentary switch that I depress. I have a brake pressure switch and you have to hold the momentary switch for the 2 step to activate. Any time after launch I release the momentary switch and the 2 step doesn't activate if I get on the brakes down track. I had a toggle switch but it's easy to leave it on and have a stutter down track.
I have seen some mount a momentary switch on the brake pedal pad itself and only step on it during launch.

Kegracing · 05-18-2015, 09:28 AM

Tim,

You have a valid point. Mine has a toggle switch on far side of shifter. I can reach it while strapped in, as I have to activate it after the burnout... Yes, guess you could do it that way.

I showed the setup to tech when I first put it in, and they were good with it. Been thru tech several times since in last few years, without any issue.

Where mine is located, and they type of heavy duty metal toggle switch I am using, I would think it would be hard to be accurate with it. And would be really easy for anyone to see... no way to hide what I was doing, if I tried this. Guess that was part of them saying it was ok. Tech did make me show them how everything worked the first time.

There are other(better) ways to do it, as Bob pointed out. Guess its all up to tech official.

Ken

Stock 412

HandOverFist · 05-18-2015, 09:50 AM

Ours is on the brake pedal, but I have never got comfortable using it. Guess it just takes practice and persistence.

Tim Ellis · 05-18-2015, 10:46 AM

Good points Ken. And very good idea to have tech look at it in advance . I understand what you are saying about a slow, notchy, or inconsistent action on some switches or toggles.

05-17-2015, 02:28 AM	#1
Bill Bogues Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bethany La. Posts: 323 Likes: 96 Liked 169 Times in 53 Posts	location of two step button in a stocker Does the switch for the two step have to be mounted on the brake pedal or can you put it somewhere else, like on the shifter console? __________________ Bill Bogues 4696 STK

05-17-2015, 09:30 AM	#2
Kegracing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Red Oak, TX Posts: 441 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: location of two step button in a stocker Both N and I HRA changed rule a few years ago, and you must have 2 step activated by brake pedal. Can use electric switch on pedal or brake pressure switch. I have a simple pressure switch, think from Jegs if I remember right, that is plumbed inline on a brake line. There are some really nice switches that are adjustable for brake pressure to activate/release also. I have a toggle switch for on/off so it does not effect my burnout. Some have a switch on shifter also, so it is only activated in low gear. I am running a Mallory ignition, and have an RPM window switch programmed, so if I hit brakes on top end, it does not activate. Good luck. Ken Stock 412

05-17-2015, 03:13 PM	#3
Bill Bogues Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bethany La. Posts: 323 Likes: 96 Liked 169 Times in 53 Posts	Re: location of two step button in a stocker Thank,s Ken that's what I wanted to know __________________ Bill Bogues 4696 STK

05-17-2015, 08:39 PM	#4
Tim Ellis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Beavercreek Or. Posts: 272 Likes: 31 Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: location of two step button in a stocker Ken I'm not trying to cause problems, as I see you are definitely trying to help. But what is to stop someone from deactivating their 2 step with the off/ on switch instead of the pressure switch. Say you created the required presuure to activate the 2 step, then just turned off the switch to launch? Don't get me wrong , I completely sympathize with not wanting the 2 step to come on at the wrong time, but wouldn't the switch let the 2 step release as well?

05-17-2015, 09:06 PM	#5
Tim Quintin/Cole s/g Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia,VT Posts: 64 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: location of two step button in a stocker Yes, We run a two step switch on our brake pedal on our stocker.. __________________ Tim Quintin - (driver) Cole Quintin- (Crew Chief 1970 Cuda S/G NHRA DIV 1 1970 Cuda S/ST NHRA DIV 1

05-17-2015, 09:17 PM	#6
Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,016 Likes: 57 Liked 320 Times in 102 Posts	Re: location of two step button in a stocker Pretty simple fix.... Just wire the 2 step thru a Normally Open micro switch that is located to be closed when the shifter in Low Gear.... The 2 step will only activate in low gear... If you use have to start your burn out in Low Gear just put the pressure switch in the rear brake hydraulic circuit...... Bob __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports

05-18-2015, 08:36 AM	#7
Eman Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: E TN Posts: 473 Likes: 16 Liked 133 Times in 76 Posts	Re: location of two step button in a stocker Don't know if it's legal in stock classes but i use a momentary switch that I depress. I have a brake pressure switch and you have to hold the momentary switch for the 2 step to activate. Any time after launch I release the momentary switch and the 2 step doesn't activate if I get on the brakes down track. I had a toggle switch but it's easy to leave it on and have a stutter down track. I have seen some mount a momentary switch on the brake pedal pad itself and only step on it during launch.

05-18-2015, 09:28 AM	#8
Kegracing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Red Oak, TX Posts: 441 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: location of two step button in a stocker Tim, You have a valid point. Mine has a toggle switch on far side of shifter. I can reach it while strapped in, as I have to activate it after the burnout... Yes, guess you could do it that way. I showed the setup to tech when I first put it in, and they were good with it. Been thru tech several times since in last few years, without any issue. Where mine is located, and they type of heavy duty metal toggle switch I am using, I would think it would be hard to be accurate with it. And would be really easy for anyone to see... no way to hide what I was doing, if I tried this. Guess that was part of them saying it was ok. Tech did make me show them how everything worked the first time. There are other(better) ways to do it, as Bob pointed out. Guess its all up to tech official. Ken Stock 412

05-18-2015, 09:50 AM	#9
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: location of two step button in a stocker Ours is on the brake pedal, but I have never got comfortable using it. Guess it just takes practice and persistence. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

05-18-2015, 10:46 AM	#10
Tim Ellis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Beavercreek Or. Posts: 272 Likes: 31 Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: location of two step button in a stocker Good points Ken. And very good idea to have tech look at it in advance . I understand what you are saying about a slow, notchy, or inconsistent action on some switches or toggles.