What horsepower?

art leong · 09-15-2010, 12:55 PM

A lot of people here have an opinion about the new cars.
How about posting what You think they should be?
And use your name. Nobodies are not entitled to an opinion.

Clay Arnett · 09-15-2010, 01:18 PM

CJ Supercharged 550hp - Same rating as that engine in the real production car.

Drag Pack 525hp - Rating found on the hemi crate engine.

The other crate engines I will have to think about.

Jack Matyas · 09-15-2010, 01:32 PM

Artie - Not a bad idea but there are a lot of folks who won't put their thoughts in print along with their real names .....................

BlueOval Ralph · 09-15-2010, 01:33 PM

http://jalopnik.com/5637861/2011-she...ow-with-800-hp

New Shelby 2011 Mustang is braging about 800 hp

2011 Shelby GT500 Super Snake: Now With 800 HP
The 2010 Shelby GT500 Super Snake made a slightly outrageous 750 hp. For 2011, Shelby's offering an 800-hp option. C'mon, when there's an 800-hp option is there really any option at all? You gotta check that box.
Most of the 2011 Shelby GT500 upgrades are what they offered last year, including an upgraded supercharger kit, stronger brakes, short-throw shifter, a trunk full of Ford Racing suspension parts. They're not yet saying how they're getting from 750-to-800 hp, nor are they saying how much more it'll be than the $30K 750-hp version.
Most of the 2011 Shelby GT500 upgrades are what they offered last year, including an upgraded supercharger kit, stronger brakes, short-throw shifter, a trunk full of Ford Racing suspension parts. They're not yet saying how they're getting from 750-to-800 hp, nor are they saying how much more it'll be than the $30K 750-hp version.

Casey Miles · 09-15-2010, 03:17 PM

The point of the question is that the newer cars are all out of whack to the playing field of the older cars and what can be done to correct the situtation. NHRA should have put at least 100 hp to all the new combo's (DP's and CJ's) and let them loose HP as they fit into classes to be competitive. The way that they are introduced to the playing field is so out of line, that it is an embarrasment to NHRA to let it go on. I was at Indy watching the older cars that used to be competitive fall to the way side as the newer cars just ate up all the quailifing positions. Cars that where .6 and .7 under, which used to be almost 1. under, couldn't even see the top of the quailifing sheets. It was a total mockery of the HP system and a fair playing field.
Just an observer of what went on at Indy, for the racer it was a $320 entry fee to watch your combo got to the crapper!

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

Art: I'm quoting myself from another thread.

art leong · 09-15-2010, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Artie - Not a bad idea but there are a lot of folks who won't put their thoughts in print along with their real names .....................

If you don't have a name you should not have an opinion.
I'm quite a ***** stirrer but everyone knows it's me.

M&M Motorsports · 09-15-2010, 05:42 PM

Dear Mr. Stirrer,
IMHO the CJ's should be NHRA rated at 600 hp and the DP at 425. The actual hp #'s for some of the CJ's in SS are around 950 while the actual hp for the DP's is around 550.
Our .02
Mike Meints SS/BA
Mary Meints F/SA

Daran Summerton · 09-15-2010, 10:06 PM

Good Stockers make 150 more than the factor.
Good Super Stockers make Double the factor.

These are Good rules of thumb, not Killer --- Good.

James Perrone · 09-16-2010, 09:59 AM

Just give me a 250 shot of NOS .
That will make everyone HAPPY.

Greg Hill · 09-16-2010, 11:52 AM

Art, here are mine.

Chrysler: 6.1 hemi 425
5.7 hemi 400
5.9 wedge 350

Ford 5.4 SS motor 550
5.4 for stock and super stock 500
428 c.i. 425
352 c.i. 375
4.6 300

There may be a couple of more. I think all of these would be fast at these ratings but would be more in line with reality.

09-15-2010, 12:55 PM	#1
art leong VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia Posts: 2,003 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	What horsepower? A lot of people here have an opinion about the new cars. How about posting what You think they should be? And use your name. Nobodies are not entitled to an opinion. __________________ Art Leong 2095 SS

09-15-2010, 01:18 PM	#2
Clay Arnett Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hartsville, IN Posts: 128 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What horsepower? CJ Supercharged 550hp - Same rating as that engine in the real production car. Drag Pack 525hp - Rating found on the hemi crate engine. The other crate engines I will have to think about. Last edited by Clay Arnett; 09-15-2010 at 01:18 PM. Reason: typo

09-15-2010, 01:32 PM	#3
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,932 Likes: 408 Liked 2,052 Times in 400 Posts	Re: What horsepower? Artie - Not a bad idea but there are a lot of folks who won't put their thoughts in print along with their real names ..................... __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO

09-15-2010, 01:33 PM	#4
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What horsepower? http://jalopnik.com/5637861/2011-she...ow-with-800-hp New Shelby 2011 Mustang is braging about 800 hp 2011 Shelby GT500 Super Snake: Now With 800 HP The 2010 Shelby GT500 Super Snake made a slightly outrageous 750 hp. For 2011, Shelby's offering an 800-hp option. C'mon, when there's an 800-hp option is there really any option at all? You gotta check that box. Most of the 2011 Shelby GT500 upgrades are what they offered last year, including an upgraded supercharger kit, stronger brakes, short-throw shifter, a trunk full of Ford Racing suspension parts. They're not yet saying how they're getting from 750-to-800 hp, nor are they saying how much more it'll be than the $30K 750-hp version. Most of the 2011 Shelby GT500 upgrades are what they offered last year, including an upgraded supercharger kit, stronger brakes, short-throw shifter, a trunk full of Ford Racing suspension parts. They're not yet saying how they're getting from 750-to-800 hp, nor are they saying how much more it'll be than the $30K 750-hp version.

09-15-2010, 03:17 PM	#5
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 706 Likes: 128 Liked 508 Times in 92 Posts	Re: What horsepower? The point of the question is that the newer cars are all out of whack to the playing field of the older cars and what can be done to correct the situtation. NHRA should have put at least 100 hp to all the new combo's (DP's and CJ's) and let them loose HP as they fit into classes to be competitive. The way that they are introduced to the playing field is so out of line, that it is an embarrasment to NHRA to let it go on. I was at Indy watching the older cars that used to be competitive fall to the way side as the newer cars just ate up all the quailifing positions. Cars that where .6 and .7 under, which used to be almost 1. under, couldn't even see the top of the quailifing sheets. It was a total mockery of the HP system and a fair playing field. Just an observer of what went on at Indy, for the racer it was a $320 entry fee to watch your combo got to the crapper! Casey Miles 248H Stock? Art: I'm quoting myself from another thread.

09-15-2010, 05:42 PM	#7
M&M Motorsports Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Jerome, Michigan Posts: 119 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What horsepower? Dear Mr. Stirrer, IMHO the CJ's should be NHRA rated at 600 hp and the DP at 425. The actual hp #'s for some of the CJ's in SS are around 950 while the actual hp for the DP's is around 550. Our .02 Mike Meints SS/BA Mary Meints F/SA

09-15-2010, 10:06 PM	#8
Daran Summerton Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas nv Posts: 600 Likes: 18 Liked 66 Times in 37 Posts	Re: What horsepower? Good Stockers make 150 more than the factor. Good Super Stockers make Double the factor. These are Good rules of thumb, not Killer --- Good. __________________ 72 cutlass

09-16-2010, 09:59 AM	#9
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,684 Likes: 3,395 Liked 1,829 Times in 427 Posts	Re: What horsepower? Just give me a 250 shot of NOS . That will make everyone HAPPY. __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

09-16-2010, 11:52 AM	#10
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 69 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: What horsepower? Art, here are mine. Chrysler: 6.1 hemi 425 5.7 hemi 400 5.9 wedge 350 Ford 5.4 SS motor 550 5.4 for stock and super stock 500 428 c.i. 425 352 c.i. 375 4.6 300 There may be a couple of more. I think all of these would be fast at these ratings but would be more in line with reality. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK