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Old 12-31-2009, 01:01 AM   #1
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Default Check out my 427 Side Oiler barn find!



This is a complete 1967 Ford 427 / 425 HP side oiler. It's in a boat built in the mid 1960's. It's like a big fishing boat, not a drag or ski boat. The boat is falling apart due to rot. This is in a 1 acre storage yard I have listed for sale in Phoenix. I just got done taking down casting numbers and it's all 1967. It's supposed to be a Hollman - Moody built with a bigger marine cam. Who knows if that's true. The 83 year old owner knows what it is....
I believe I have it sold pending further tear down inspection.

Intake is C7AE-9425-A....can't find a "-A" online...what is that?
Heads are C6AE-F
Carbs are C5AF-9510-80...rear is List 3300 dated 751....front carb list is 3301 dated 752. Autolite tags are intact and mint on both carbs.
Ford DP distributor.
Cross-bolted block with screw-in freeze plugs.

What's the core value on this?
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Old 12-31-2009, 02:02 AM   #2
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Hey Jeff--That would look real good sitting in my Fairlane!!!
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Old 12-31-2009, 02:36 AM   #3
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It isn't original... ;~)
It's been worked on...
Look at those carbs real close.
It has had Jiffy Kit carb kits installed.
What a find.
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Old 12-31-2009, 09:59 AM   #4
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Default Re: Check out my 427 Side Oiler barn find!

quite a few big cruisers used the 427. did a rebuild ( 1968 Chris Craft 30')for a customer 10 years ago and had to have a cracked block repaired simply because everyone knows you can't buy a replacement for less than $3-4K if you can even find one!
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Old 12-31-2009, 10:32 AM   #5
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Default Re: Check out my 427 Side Oiler barn find!

True sweetness .... good for you....good thing someone who knew what it was saw if before the family had it hauled to the scrap yard....

Makes me sick every time I go down there, I got an uncut set of 426 Max Wedge heads there I can tell you Johhny and Jane wouldnt have thrown grandpas junk out if they knew what it was worth....

Did you have to buy the whole boat ?
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Old 12-31-2009, 10:40 AM   #6
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Your # dose not show up on ford list but this one dose, carbs would be 750cfm, looks like a Med-Riser.

C7OE-9425-A

427


Certified65-69 406 427 428 HyPerf Ford Aftermarket -Drag only




2 X 4V Tunnel Port

Aluminum

Single Plane

Ports 2.05" x 2.20"

Ford Service Part Number ID C7OE-9424-A
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I remember reading about Hollman - Moody building everthing from the Ford parst department. So if it did come from them it could have mixed & matched parts. Like nothing that came in a car from Ford. Remember the big Ford parts sale when they closed down?
I had a guy bring in a engine he swore was a 427 and it turned out to be a 428 w/med riser top end. I know no one had messed with it. I'm pretty sure I was the first to go into it. It had no signs of being worked on. All bearings and gaskets had ford ID and #'s. It had H&M ID tag and V-covers. No telling what the history is..... the carb # diff is the choke plate in one.
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Old 12-31-2009, 11:19 AM   #8
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Jeff,

Be real careful before you buy the engine. Check to see if it was a saltwater cooled engine. If so the block and heads could be rusted so bad that they would be unusable. I live in florida and have a raw water cooled boat. The corosion is unbelievable. I do not see a heat exchanger in the picture so the engine could have been raw water cooled.

Good Luck on your find.
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Old 12-31-2009, 11:21 AM   #9
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I should have taken a picture of the boat as it's a real pile. The owner's son-in-law is my engine machinist, Bud Yancer / MACH Development. He told me they took it to the lake back in the early '70's and it went 80 MPH and you could barely control the boat as the steering was shot and set up for something like 35 MPH!
I don't own this, I just have the storage yard listed for sale. There's 75-100 cars on site and maybe 10 are worth looking at. The rest is scrap value.
There's a '69 M code Cougar Eliminator but all is gone except a roof, trunk and left rear quarter panel. A decent '67 390 a/t Cougar (non GT complete) and also a decent & complete 302 2bbl '69 Cougar. Two '56 Ford station wagons and a '69 M code Mach 1 that needs both quarters replaced; looks like somebody had a pair of snow chains let loose on them. The wagons and Mach are rolling chassis. Also might have a a complete '70 Maverick straight 6 with manual trans. Thought that was sold but that may fall apart. Some complete flat head engines and some 428-429 blocks. Oh and a 390-406 3x2 intake and carbs.
The old guy is 83 and wants the yard sold as his IRA or whatever he had his money in is now in the toilet. He want's to keep the cars, kind of like his toy box but I'll bet if it sells it will include everything. It's 1.17 acre in Phoenix and a good industrial location.
I have the engine sold pending inspection and Bud gets a rebuild out of it. I get the favor of help on my race engine. I received a PM on this today and he will get 2nd dibbs if it falls through. But I doubt it will. The guy is buying it before he even has a '67 Fairlane but they aren't too hard to find. If somebody has a real nice '67 Fairlane suitable for a ground up (rust free) restoration with clutch pedals in it, pass it buy me.

I do see cross-bolt mains on the block with screw-in freeze plugs. I couldn't see the side oiling but the exhaust manifold was in the way and the boat deck felt like it could collapse so I wasn't having fun. I think the cross-bolt mains tells me it is a 427 SO block. I think it was a fresh water boat. I'm told the engine still rotated about 5 years ago but who knows now. That's why the sale is pending, have to make sure the engine isn't shot internally.
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Old 12-31-2009, 11:24 AM   #10
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Jeff, If the engine is for sale yet give me a call or e-mail me
616-890-8667 cell
powermart1@att.net

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