Div 2 Pts Meet @ South Ga.

Woodro Josey · 11-30-2009, 11:43 AM

I don't know if there is anything we as racers can say or do, but we need to get behind Rowland Wood and the SGMP and try to get NHRA to work with him and give us our Divisional race there in 2010. It is one of the nicest tracks in the country for a Divisional race, its clean, paved and run by some really nice folks. They make the sportsman racers feel like pro's, so NHRA, we need this track for a Div 2 points race.

TOM WARD · 11-30-2009, 11:56 AM

X-2. Woodro is correct on this one. Give SGMP all the support we can.

Tom Ward
Division Director SSSSA

art leong · 11-30-2009, 12:03 PM

I agree. Let me know what I can do.

Craig Couris · 11-30-2009, 01:06 PM

Maybe I'm wrong but I'm told it's an Alcohol Class problem. None of the tracks want them because they take one third the purse, incur a disproportionate amount of the expenses (they all blow up), pay nothing to get in and bring in very few spectators. If this is in fact the case, once again everyone else loses because of NHRA's addiction to the "Mechanical Rain Delay" cars.

If this is true, then this Eliminator needs to financially stand on its own and not be underwritten by Stockers, Super Stockers the rest of the Sportsman Racers and the track operators, period. If everyone wants to see them then give them a percentage of the gate just like any other Circus Act.

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad but NHRA actually believes that their best customers are the spectators that go to one or two races a year and not the Sportsman racers who pay entry after entry all year long while getting less and less value along the way. Has anyone noticed how many time runs we now receive?

These people are brain dead and have no clue on how to run a successful, profitable business that builds value for its best customers. Think about it, the only other industry that treats its best customers the worst are the airlines and they have all gone bankrupt.

Craig Couris, 404-274-1003

Bill Harris · 11-30-2009, 01:09 PM

It would help to know what the problem is. Is it the case that the track owner wants a Divisional race and the NHRA doesn't? Or is the the other way around?

I, for one, know squat about the business side of the tracks, but I have read on this and other forums that most tracks don't make any money on Divisional events, mainly since there aren't many (i.e., none) spectators. So I could see where the track might not want to hold a Div race and lose money, especially if there is some other event that they could hold and turn a profit by getting more butts in the seats.

However, if it is the case where our division director doesn't want to hold a race at a particular track then that is a major problem. It is inexcuseable to not hold an event at a centrally located, top notch facility that wants to have the race, especially when there are no divisional races from early March until mid-September.

If this is the case, then as NHRA "members", we should be pounding the division and national offices with firm but polite requests for a sixth race.

Stephen & Horace Johnson · 11-30-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodro Josey

I don't know if there is anything we as racers can say or do, but we need to get behind Rowland Wood and the SGMP and try to get NHRA to work with him and give us our Divisional race there in 2010. It is one of the nicest tracks in the country for a Divisional race, its clean, paved and run by some really nice folks. They make the sportsman racers feel like pro's, so NHRA, we need this track for a Div 2 points race.

I totally agree WJ. this track is top notch.

Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA

Mack Reeves · 11-30-2009, 01:52 PM

I totally agree we need our Division race at SGMP!!!!!!!!!

Casey Miles · 11-30-2009, 02:22 PM

Maybe, NHRA wants the racer to travel longer distances to get their points and that it would be too convient for the racer, thinking like NHRA, to have a race at a central location such as SGMP.
Casey Miles
248H

Jeff Teuton · 11-30-2009, 03:05 PM

Why don't someone find out the real deal? I think the Alcohol cars are optional to the track owner, but I have been wrong before. Also correct me, but if I run my first three races in Div 2, then I'm in Div 2 I think. Hi Woody.

Evan Smith · 11-30-2009, 03:29 PM

Over the last few years we had a D1 race at Atco without Alcohol cars. It counted as an out-of-division race, but I believe that was because it was the seventh race. I believe you can claim any division you want as long as you run three races in that division. it doesn't matter which three.

Evan

11-30-2009, 11:43 AM	#1
Woodro Josey Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 805 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Div 2 Pts Meet @ South Ga. I don't know if there is anything we as racers can say or do, but we need to get behind Rowland Wood and the SGMP and try to get NHRA to work with him and give us our Divisional race there in 2010. It is one of the nicest tracks in the country for a Divisional race, its clean, paved and run by some really nice folks. They make the sportsman racers feel like pro's, so NHRA, we need this track for a Div 2 points race. __________________ Woodro Josey 2002 STK Last edited by Woodro Josey; 11-30-2009 at 12:42 PM.

11-30-2009, 12:03 PM	#3
art leong VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia Posts: 2,003 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Div 2 Pts Meet @ South Ga. I agree. Let me know what I can do. __________________ Art Leong 2095 SS

11-30-2009, 01:06 PM	#4
Craig Couris Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 122 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Div 2 Pts Meet @ South Ga. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm told it's an Alcohol Class problem. None of the tracks want them because they take one third the purse, incur a disproportionate amount of the expenses (they all blow up), pay nothing to get in and bring in very few spectators. If this is in fact the case, once again everyone else loses because of NHRA's addiction to the "Mechanical Rain Delay" cars. If this is true, then this Eliminator needs to financially stand on its own and not be underwritten by Stockers, Super Stockers the rest of the Sportsman Racers and the track operators, period. If everyone wants to see them then give them a percentage of the gate just like any other Circus Act. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad but NHRA actually believes that their best customers are the spectators that go to one or two races a year and not the Sportsman racers who pay entry after entry all year long while getting less and less value along the way. Has anyone noticed how many time runs we now receive? These people are brain dead and have no clue on how to run a successful, profitable business that builds value for its best customers. Think about it, the only other industry that treats its best customers the worst are the airlines and they have all gone bankrupt. Craig Couris, 404-274-1003

11-30-2009, 01:09 PM	#5
Bill Harris Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ooltewah, TN Posts: 420 Likes: 13 Liked 26 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Div 2 Pts Meet @ South Ga. It would help to know what the problem is. Is it the case that the track owner wants a Divisional race and the NHRA doesn't? Or is the the other way around? I, for one, know squat about the business side of the tracks, but I have read on this and other forums that most tracks don't make any money on Divisional events, mainly since there aren't many (i.e., none) spectators. So I could see where the track might not want to hold a Div race and lose money, especially if there is some other event that they could hold and turn a profit by getting more butts in the seats. However, if it is the case where our division director doesn't want to hold a race at a particular track then that is a major problem. It is inexcuseable to not hold an event at a centrally located, top notch facility that wants to have the race, especially when there are no divisional races from early March until mid-September. If this is the case, then as NHRA "members", we should be pounding the division and national offices with firm but polite requests for a sixth race. __________________ Bill Harris ex 2172 STK ex 2272 S/S

11-30-2009, 01:52 PM	#7
Mack Reeves Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Elkin, NC Posts: 672 Likes: 168 Liked 44 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Div 2 Pts Meet @ South Ga. I totally agree we need our Division race at SGMP!!!!!!!!! __________________ Mack Reeves 2377 STOCK & SUPER STOCK Last edited by Mack Reeves; 11-30-2009 at 08:35 PM. Reason: can't spell

11-30-2009, 11:56 AM	#2
TOM WARD Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: GRAND ISLAND FLORIDA Posts: 25 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Div 2 Pts Meet @ South Ga. X-2. Woodro is correct on this one. Give SGMP all the support we can. Tom Ward Division Director SSSSA __________________ TOM WARD 2880 STK

11-30-2009, 02:22 PM	#8
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 695 Likes: 122 Liked 451 Times in 85 Posts	Re: Div 2 Pts Meet @ South Ga. Maybe, NHRA wants the racer to travel longer distances to get their points and that it would be too convient for the racer, thinking like NHRA, to have a race at a central location such as SGMP. Casey Miles 248H

11-30-2009, 03:05 PM	#9
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 326 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Div 2 Pts Meet @ South Ga. Why don't someone find out the real deal? I think the Alcohol cars are optional to the track owner, but I have been wrong before. Also correct me, but if I run my first three races in Div 2, then I'm in Div 2 I think. Hi Woody. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

11-30-2009, 03:29 PM	#10
Evan Smith Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 404 Likes: 7 Liked 115 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Div 2 Pts Meet @ South Ga. Over the last few years we had a D1 race at Atco without Alcohol cars. It counted as an out-of-division race, but I believe that was because it was the seventh race. I believe you can claim any division you want as long as you run three races in that division. it doesn't matter which three. Evan __________________ Evan Smith 1798 STK