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[JrRacer2033]

I was wondering what everyone thought about people getting off of it at 1000' and the purpose behind this. I understand getting HP is the main issue but why have the power if you are not going to use it.

[AC]

aw jeez

[Randy]

Originally Posted by AC

aw jeez

Lol

[hadtobethere]

Originally Posted by AC

aw jeez

...Now, that is funny

[CrateCamaro]

Jim Rountree

So your telling me that when there is class run off''s and theres 9 cars and you know that your in the middle of the pack you run wide open in the first round of class even though you KNOW you have the guy covered, lets say by 3 tenths? Why? Why would you show the other guys in your class what you have? SO they can go back and find more ET? Speak softly and carry a big stick is what I was taught and by the looks of how this post is going everyone else agrees. Im always bagging 1 1/2 to 2 tenths when I bracket race and when its heads up time...throw a tunup in and go. But I guess for the purists in the class thats a nono. Those same guys dial everything tight and run it out the door every time when they are bracket racing....never scrub the brakes, never burp the throttle. Trapped in the days when there was 29 SS/L cars to run against and when Christ was a cowboy running the Crondek Timing equipment. 5 years ago in Norwalk Ohio at a IHRA National there was only going to be 2 GT/DA cars racing as of thursday night...friday while we were in the lanes making the first time run 2 more pulled in. We dumped at the 1000 and scrubbd the brakes to a 10.40. The two guys that pulled in late grabbed a qualifying sheet, seen that we were the slowest and never Radial'd or tuned up the cars. Guess what...they were both out in the first round of class because of that, They had all the GT/DA cars covered by a tenth or more easy with a tuneup and tire change. So is it smart to lift....?

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by CrateCamaro

Jim Rountree

So your telling me that when there is class run off''s and theres 9 cars and you know that your in the middle of the pack you run wide open in the first round of class even though you KNOW you have the guy covered, lets say by 3 tenths? Why? Why would you show the other guys in your class what you have? SO they can go back and find more ET? Speak softly and carry a big stick is what I was taught and by the looks of how this post is going everyone else agrees. Im always bagging 1 1/2 to 2 tenths when I bracket race and when its heads up time...throw a tunup in and go. But I guess for the purists in the class thats a nono. Those same guys dial everything tight and run it out the door every time when they are bracket racing....never scrub the brakes, never burp the throttle. Trapped in the days when there was 29 SS/L cars to run against and when Christ was a cowboy running the Crondek Timing equipment. 5 years ago in Norwalk Ohio at a IHRA National there was only going to be 2 GT/DA cars racing as of thursday night...friday while we were in the lanes making the first time run 2 more pulled in. We dumped at the 1000 and scrubbd the brakes to a 10.40. The two guys that pulled in late grabbed a qualifying sheet, seen that we were the slowest and never Radial'd or tuned up the cars. Guess what...they were both out in the first round of class because of that, They had all the GT/DA cars covered by a tenth or more easy with a tuneup and tire change. So is it smart to lift....?

When I was bracket racing sometimes I would dump if a faster car blew by me at the stripe.

In over 40 years of class racing I have never dumped nor let off at 1000ft. I always ran it out the back door. Cause that's drag racing.

Let me ask you a question: if you can run 1.14 under and they hit you with 4hp can't you still run about 1 under, if they hit you with 10 hp couldn't you still run under the index....sure you could.

JimR

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by JrRacer2033

I was wondering what everyone thought about people getting off of it at 1000' and the purpose behind this. I understand getting HP is the main issue but why have the power if you are not going to use it.

Don't feel picked on,this subject has been beat into the ground a few times on here,mostly when a new poorly factored combo comes out and causes mass hysteria.I don't go fast enough to click it at 1,000"
so maybe someone brave enough to get up and explain it will post on it.
It sure aint Jr dragster racing though.

[Mike Carr]

Originally Posted by JrRacer2033

I was wondering what everyone thought about people getting off of it at 1000' and the purpose behind this. I understand getting HP is the main issue but why have the power if you are not going to use it.

I posted this a few weeks ago, to another person who thought lifting early was "not racing".

"Flat out racing is great, but sometimes you have to dump to protect. I'll use the following example, Jim. Say early in the year, you and I have a heads-up run in, say, A/SA. You have a fairly common car (I'll use a '64 Fury Max Wedge as an example). I have a car that is pretty rare (say a '64 or '65 Nascar single 4 Hemi). You and I run Class somewhere early in the year. We both run flat out, both running 10.0's., and you get the win. You have plenty of other cars in your Class to bring the average for your combination down. I don't So, for running flat out, I get hit with HP, you don't, and now I'm further behind. Which can hurt later in the year, especially when it comes time for Indy, trying to win Class or even qualifying. It's this scenario, why racers, when at 1000' they realize they aren't going to win, will dump to protect their HP. It's not just Stock and S/S. David Rampy has done the same thing in Comp with his A/EA Bantam over the years. If he knows he won't get there (or even if he think he will but knows he'll kill the Index if he does), he'll dump, save the Index, to give himself a better chance down the road at winning. After 70+ National Event wins, I'd say Rampy's idea is a pretty smart one."

You WANT the power to go fast and/or to win a heads-up, but also have to be smart about how/when to USE it.

[Bryan Worner]

AC should get the award for post of the year!!!!

[treessavoy]

Lifting is not drag racing.Period!

Drag racing was invented as a sport to get form one stripe to the other as QUICKLY as you can.

Lifting, dumping, etc is an economic decision allowing you to stay competitive and win more money by sand bagging. It's the same as the .90 cars except you don't use electronics.

BUT, I'm a purist because I go so far back and I'm not in it for the money and I don't have near as much money in my car as you guys do, mine built from used parts just so I can go racing once in a while so my expectations from the sport are different from yours.

BTW, I raced Rampy and his SG opel all around AL and GA for years. Tried so hard to beat him once that I left on the second yellow lol!

Beat me up,

JimR