Cant believe what I saw today

herbjr · 04-06-2009, 08:59 PM

Well I took my 340 Super Stock Modified motor apart since we had some problems on the 2nd run and I must say after buying the car turn key with zero runs you never know what you are buying. I'm not blaming anyone that has owned the car but I almost threw up when I saw the crank had over 25 holes to balance it. Over 8 of them were bigger and deeper than my thumb. I have never seen a butcher job this bad on a crank and we did engine work for 8 years. I called Callies today and they had one they could send me right away balanced to my bob weight and I should have it in a week. Its a shame that someone spent GOOD money to have this motor built and got a stock crank that was butchered so bad. I guess im going back to a convertor/gear combo we ran 15 years ago to get a base line. Hope to have it at Rockingham but if not Petersburg for sure.

Herb Jr

Dustin Ward · 04-06-2009, 09:15 PM

Sorry to hear that, but it sounds like you'll have it back up and going in no time. We are all too trustworthy at times , i just bought a set of slicks from across the country to have them arrive and be so dry rotted there is no way I would put them on a car.

Live and learn is all we can do.

Jim Wahl · 04-07-2009, 11:32 AM

Damn Herb! That crank must have looked like swiss cheese!

Dustin, I did the same thing a few years ago, bought some tires from a major performance parts company. When I got them one was fresh and new, the other was about as dried out as a tire could be. I noticed they came from different suppliers. Both from different parts of the country!

The only place to by tires is at the track! From the tire makers! Jim

RJ · 04-08-2009, 03:21 AM

I had a motor in for a freshen up from a former NHRA world champion comp eliminator builder a few years back. I could not believe the 2nd tier parts/shoddy clearances in this motor! - It's amazing to see what some will try to get away with, thinking that no one else will ever see what they've done.

treessavoy · 04-08-2009, 11:50 AM

I'm not high jacking the thread but I have a question.

Would it not be better to remove the weight from as far out on the counter weight as you could before you start drilling towards the center?

Herb,

Had the same thing happen by an AL machine shop that supposedly had built a number of IHRA record holders. Took the second crank to Ed Chandler in Anniston, a one man speed shop, and still have the crank today.

herbjr · 04-08-2009, 05:24 PM

Well 2 things, either order a Callies to bob weight or turn the counter weights down in a lathe. For a motor making this kind of power an aftermarket crank would have been a little better.

Herb Jr

mtkawboy · 04-09-2009, 03:25 PM

You know you have a top quailty engine machine shop when you get the clutch face side of the flywheel back from them drilled to balance it. Terrill Motor Machine, Hollywood Fla.

Jim Wahl · 04-09-2009, 03:40 PM

You are kidding...... right? Jim

THE LEGEND · 04-09-2009, 03:53 PM

Herb,
Similar circumstance with the dragster I just bought. Intake was leaking could not get it to seal. The heads are in sad shape one end looks like someone took a hammer to it. The previous owner told me to put it back and use a lot of silicon. I pulled it out and it's in the back corner of the shop. Luckily I was able to obtain another motor.
Chip

04-06-2009, 08:59 PM	#1
herbjr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 1,027 Likes: 1 Liked 83 Times in 32 Posts	Cant believe what I saw today Well I took my 340 Super Stock Modified motor apart since we had some problems on the 2nd run and I must say after buying the car turn key with zero runs you never know what you are buying. I'm not blaming anyone that has owned the car but I almost threw up when I saw the crank had over 25 holes to balance it. Over 8 of them were bigger and deeper than my thumb. I have never seen a butcher job this bad on a crank and we did engine work for 8 years. I called Callies today and they had one they could send me right away balanced to my bob weight and I should have it in a week. Its a shame that someone spent GOOD money to have this motor built and got a stock crank that was butchered so bad. I guess im going back to a convertor/gear combo we ran 15 years ago to get a base line. Hope to have it at Rockingham but if not Petersburg for sure. Herb Jr

04-06-2009, 09:15 PM	#2
Dustin Ward Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Renton Washington Posts: 35 Likes: 27 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Cant believe what I saw today Sorry to hear that, but it sounds like you'll have it back up and going in no time. We are all too trustworthy at times , i just bought a set of slicks from across the country to have them arrive and be so dry rotted there is no way I would put them on a car. Live and learn is all we can do.

04-07-2009, 11:32 AM	#3
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: Cant believe what I saw today Damn Herb! That crank must have looked like swiss cheese! Dustin, I did the same thing a few years ago, bought some tires from a major performance parts company. When I got them one was fresh and new, the other was about as dried out as a tire could be. I noticed they came from different suppliers. Both from different parts of the country! The only place to by tires is at the track! From the tire makers! Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

04-08-2009, 03:21 AM	#4
RJ Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 248 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cant believe what I saw today I had a motor in for a freshen up from a former NHRA world champion comp eliminator builder a few years back. I could not believe the 2nd tier parts/shoddy clearances in this motor! - It's amazing to see what some will try to get away with, thinking that no one else will ever see what they've done.

04-08-2009, 11:50 AM	#5
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Cant believe what I saw today I'm not high jacking the thread but I have a question. Would it not be better to remove the weight from as far out on the counter weight as you could before you start drilling towards the center? Herb, Had the same thing happen by an AL machine shop that supposedly had built a number of IHRA record holders. Took the second crank to Ed Chandler in Anniston, a one man speed shop, and still have the crank today.

04-08-2009, 05:24 PM	#6
herbjr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 1,027 Likes: 1 Liked 83 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Cant believe what I saw today Well 2 things, either order a Callies to bob weight or turn the counter weights down in a lathe. For a motor making this kind of power an aftermarket crank would have been a little better. Herb Jr

04-09-2009, 03:25 PM	#7
mtkawboy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Billings Mt Posts: 281 Likes: 182 Liked 54 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Cant believe what I saw today You know you have a top quailty engine machine shop when you get the clutch face side of the flywheel back from them drilled to balance it. Terrill Motor Machine, Hollywood Fla.

04-09-2009, 03:40 PM	#8
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: Cant believe what I saw today You are kidding...... right? Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

04-09-2009, 03:53 PM	#9
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cant believe what I saw today Herb, Similar circumstance with the dragster I just bought. Intake was leaking could not get it to seal. The heads are in sad shape one end looks like someone took a hammer to it. The previous owner told me to put it back and use a lot of silicon. I pulled it out and it's in the back corner of the shop. Luckily I was able to obtain another motor. Chip