Strange eng master cyl?

T Hall · 03-14-2009, 10:39 PM

Purchased one for my 70 nova, went to put it on and the hole pattern is wrong. it is a little over 3/8 to narrow. Anyone else have this problem with thirs before? I will call them on Monday, but as far as the catalog goes, that is it. I have the 1.032 cyl , they said I needed this one because I have drum brakes in the back. I would imagine the bigger bore cyl would still have the same bolt pattern , I was told that these were originaly Dodge parts anyway. If I was to slot it, it would be very close to breaking out on the sides. I am not crazy about that.
Thanks, Tony

Real Racer · 03-15-2009, 09:04 AM

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gmonde · 03-15-2009, 09:14 AM

you may have to get the adapter plate and relocate the push rod hold on the firewall ,the other thing that you will have to watch is the brake pedal geometery,if not correct you could have a break pedal thats way to hard or travels to much,close to the floor, just like any other componet on a race car there will be some trial and error before you get it right

on my car i ended up going with a 7/8 diameter master (i also have rear drums with wilwood front calipers

gmonde

T Ketels · 03-15-2009, 09:22 AM

I've installed a Wilwood and a Strange and the bolt pattern on them is too narrow. You just have to open up the holes on a mill sideways or have fun using a file! After opening up the holes, the material on the sides is pretty narrow. I've also seen where people have move the studs in the firewall.

Tim

Billy Harper · 03-15-2009, 09:31 AM

just put one on 69 nova drilled holes in master cyl worked great drilled one size bigger .

chris ok · 03-15-2009, 10:37 AM

on a friends 69 camaro, I used a willwood 7/8 bore, disc front drum rear.bolted right up where power booster did no mods but, I need to make a spacer as the pushrod which is attached to master was too long. works real well.

Chipper Chapman · 03-15-2009, 07:38 PM

Had this problem on a cutlass last year with the 1"master. I knocked the studs out of the pedal bracket, ovaled the holes with the die grinder, and used some grade 8 bolts. Didn't modify the master at all. Works great, no problems.

Jim Grande · 03-16-2009, 05:38 PM

I put the Strange master cyl on my 69 Camaro. Slotted the holes, added flat washers to increase clamping force and still good 15 years later.
Jim Grande
SS/D 5007

Kenny Wigington · 03-16-2009, 11:23 PM

What about the lines ? Are they a pretty good match ?

Mike Pearson · 03-17-2009, 09:18 AM

I did the same as Jim Grande with the slots and washers. works great. Kenny my master cylinder had metric threads in it. I had to match up some new fittings and reflare the lines. Pretty easy install.

03-14-2009, 10:39 PM	#1
T Hall Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus,Ohio Posts: 390 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Strange eng master cyl? Purchased one for my 70 nova, went to put it on and the hole pattern is wrong. it is a little over 3/8 to narrow. Anyone else have this problem with thirs before? I will call them on Monday, but as far as the catalog goes, that is it. I have the 1.032 cyl , they said I needed this one because I have drum brakes in the back. I would imagine the bigger bore cyl would still have the same bolt pattern , I was told that these were originaly Dodge parts anyway. If I was to slot it, it would be very close to breaking out on the sides. I am not crazy about that. Thanks, Tony __________________ Tony Hall 3545 S/ST

03-15-2009, 09:04 AM	#2
Real Racer Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 99 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Strange eng master cyl? http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

03-15-2009, 09:14 AM	#3
gmonde Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 615 Likes: 56 Liked 165 Times in 59 Posts	Re: Strange eng master cyl? you may have to get the adapter plate and relocate the push rod hold on the firewall ,the other thing that you will have to watch is the brake pedal geometery,if not correct you could have a break pedal thats way to hard or travels to much,close to the floor, just like any other componet on a race car there will be some trial and error before you get it right on my car i ended up going with a 7/8 diameter master (i also have rear drums with wilwood front calipers gmonde

03-15-2009, 09:22 AM	#4
T Ketels Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dyersville, Iowa Posts: 52 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Strange eng master cyl? I've installed a Wilwood and a Strange and the bolt pattern on them is too narrow. You just have to open up the holes on a mill sideways or have fun using a file! After opening up the holes, the material on the sides is pretty narrow. I've also seen where people have move the studs in the firewall. Tim

03-15-2009, 09:31 AM	#5
Billy Harper Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 277 Likes: 76 Liked 138 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Strange eng master cyl? just put one on 69 nova drilled holes in master cyl worked great drilled one size bigger . __________________ BILLY HARPER

03-15-2009, 10:37 AM	#6
chris ok Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Long Island, New york Posts: 592 Likes: 131 Liked 46 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Strange eng master cyl? on a friends 69 camaro, I used a willwood 7/8 bore, disc front drum rear.bolted right up where power booster did no mods but, I need to make a spacer as the pushrod which is attached to master was too long. works real well.

03-15-2009, 07:38 PM	#7
Chipper Chapman Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Belmont N.S. Canada Posts: 473 Likes: 246 Liked 166 Times in 71 Posts	Re: Strange eng master cyl? Had this problem on a cutlass last year with the 1"master. I knocked the studs out of the pedal bracket, ovaled the holes with the die grinder, and used some grade 8 bolts. Didn't modify the master at all. Works great, no problems.

03-16-2009, 05:38 PM	#8
Jim Grande Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 49 Likes: 23 Liked 18 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Strange eng master cyl? I put the Strange master cyl on my 69 Camaro. Slotted the holes, added flat washers to increase clamping force and still good 15 years later. Jim Grande SS/D 5007

03-16-2009, 11:23 PM	#9
Kenny Wigington Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cumming,Ga. USA Posts: 967 Likes: 36 Liked 60 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Strange eng master cyl? What about the lines ? Are they a pretty good match ? __________________ 2894 STK

03-17-2009, 09:18 AM	#10
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,454 Likes: 616 Liked 1,943 Times in 584 Posts	Re: Strange eng master cyl? I did the same as Jim Grande with the slots and washers. works great. Kenny my master cylinder had metric threads in it. I had to match up some new fittings and reflare the lines. Pretty easy install. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS