"Live From" 2023 Baby Gators / Gatornationals

[Ken Miele]

Originally Posted by bubski

Why are WE reluctant to name , names ?? Just go out on a Limb if your sure !! If someone is doing something in the worst interest of Class Racing let it be known !! Back door deals and enhancements and welfare are making Class Racing a joke nowadays !! Cheers !!

You're a funny dude... the guy who stirs the pot every chance he gets while using a fictitious name wants me to name names. You can't make this stuff up.

[CMcAllister]

At least the NHRA people now have confirmation that the protestor is a s*** stirrer who doesn't know what he's looking at.

Sometimes opening your mouth backfires on you.

[Frank Castros]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

You're a funny dude... the guy who stirs the pot every chance he gets while using a fictitious name wants me to name names. You can't make this stuff up.

Irony in true definition and use.

[63corvette]

Originally Posted by Mike Gray

Did Gary get the protest fee? (looks like it's $750.00 ?)

Protests must be accompanied by a protest fee as outlined
below. Protest fee, minus Technical Department expenses,
will be forfeited to the vehicle owner if the protested vehicle
is found in compliance with the requirements of its class of
competition.
(NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series, NHRA Pro Mod Drag
Racing Series, NHRA Top Fuel Harley Drag Racing Series and
the NHRA Factory Stock Showdown series) protest fee: $750

How was a phone in protest accepted?

Contestant protests may only be filed by a driver or registered
vehicle owner competing in the same event and in the same
eliminator category, as the vehicle being protested

This is all at the Division Directors discretion.
I can speak to this directly as I have been a victim of it myself.
I did not collect the protest fee because the protestor did not put up any fee.
I was subjected to the inspection by 4 or 5 of NHRAs Tech personnel over about an hour and one half inspection of my car on jack stands in my pit.
Only the wife and I were allowed to witness the inspection.
Everyone else was evicted from our pit and could not witness the inspection.
My car passed with flying colors and the chief inspector asked me why I was being inspected. My comment was you need to tell me who protested me and and why.
I was told they, NHRA could not tell me.
When the inspection was over I had a heated conversation with the Division Director.
I was sure who protested me and we also had a heated conversation.
After that nothing was ever said about the protest.
What it comes down to is certain SPECIAL people get things done just to harass another racer and pay no costs for their actions monetary or otherwise.
My Experience.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

[Mike Gray]

Originally Posted by 63corvette

This is all at the Division Directors discretion.
I can speak to this directly as I have been a victim of it myself.
I did not collect the protest fee because the protestor did not put up any fee.
I was subjected to the inspection by 4 or 5 of NHRAs Tech personnel over about an hour and one half inspection of my car on jack stands in my pit.
Only the wife and I were allowed to witness the inspection.
Everyone else was evicted from our pit and could not witness the inspection.
My car passed with flying colors and the chief inspector asked me why I was being inspected. My comment was you need to tell me who protested me and and why.
I was told they, NHRA could not tell me.
When the inspection was over I had a heated conversation with the Division Director.
I was sure who protested me and we also had a heated conversation.
After that nothing was ever said about the protest.
What it comes down to is certain SPECIAL people get things done just to harass another racer and pay no costs for their actions monetary or otherwise.
My Experience.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

Sounds like someone convinced a NHRA official to protest you. According to the rule book if another competitor filed the protest it must be accompanied by the fee. An official can protest a competitors car with no fee involved. The officials should not be instigating protest because of hear-say by someone with a little more pull than others.
(Sounds a bit like blinder protest.)

[Ken Miele]

Good morning all, and oh its brisk. I'll post the weather numbers as of 7:33 below. Super Street is out first, with a 8am start, followed but Stock. We get 3 qualifiers with first round tomorrow starting with Super Street. I will be at the starting line doing my photos todays and post them later today.

Temp 52
Bar 29.98
Humid 85%
DA 50ft
Water Grains 48
VP.3329
Wind calm

[Casey Miles]

I don't get NHRA's policy. As a racer going to numerous points races, I couldn't get into the Gator nats. But NHRA invites a Street legal class to attend. I would understand if the Street legal class was invited to the babies, but why to the national and refuse more Stockers in the race? Just a little steamy!

Casey Miles
Stock

[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

2010 FI 352.

Hey guys, as you know its been a mostly uneventful race. With only the track prep on Saturday after the rains being an issue. Well, that's about to change. Gary Ewing's 69 SS/GA Camaro was protested. Not from another racer at the track, but with a phone call to NHRA. Before I get into the details, is this going to be the new norm. We think our opponent is not legal, so we just have to make a phone call.

I'm reluctant to name names... but a racer called NHRA and told them Ewing's car was not legal. They said the firewall was modified. Now you know many of us like to make our engine compartment look clean. Smoothing imperfections is pretty common. Well NHRA did go over to Ewing's car, and the firewall was totally legal. In fact Gary ask the tech to sign the firewall.

Its a sad state of affairs that we now eat our own. Gary has been racing for as long as I remember, he is a stand up guy. His 69 Camaro is one of the nicest in the country. He has been racing the 69 forever, and now someone has an issue with it. The pettiness that goes on in Stock and Super Stock is beyond me. We are so blessed in life that we get to race cars, just think of the 100,000's of fans that would loved to be in our shoes.

You think grown man would be mature enough not to make these types accusations over the phone. I probably would still have had an issue if the racer did the protest in person, but I would respect that... at least he was man enough to do so.

Anyone else that has more info on what happened, please chime is.

Pretty sure it was Bubski

[Ken Miele]

Stock is done with their third qualifier, and the final Q sheet and ladder are up on DRC. Super Stock is running now with their third qualifier. Stock Q2, next 2 posts...

[Ken Miele]

Next batch, I will be back later with Super Stock Q2 photos...