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Old 04-01-2009, 01:28 PM   #81
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Sounds like the solution for all you portly drivers is to have NHRA have ,in addition to the minimum weight,writing a maximum weight that takes your weight into consideration and gives you a combined weight of no more that adds the maximum weight for your class plus driver weight.You will be over the max weight ,but only by what your weight factor is.No 300/400 lbs over.Nah that's too simple.
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I just looked through an old Hot Rod mag with the results from Indy 1988,Anyone know who was #1 qualifier in Stock????????????????????????


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Old 04-01-2009, 01:52 PM   #82
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In the irha their is no max.I call (April 1 2009) Howie Dalton Regional Tech Director and that's what he said.you can be heavy as you like as long you follow the rules.
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Old 04-01-2009, 06:08 PM   #83
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There was a time when all this was driver-weight bidness was moot. I don't remember the year, maybe 1977, or thereabouts, but I had a close friend who had built an A/SR, and it was fast. He weighed over 300 pounds, and at that time, NOBODY weighed drivers, with or without the cars; drivers were just dead weight that the motor had to pull, and were not factored into the classification process in any way, shape, or form, in any class.

If you had the famed "trained, 9-pound mongoose" made famous by Hot Rod magazine in the mid-1950's, driving for you, you were ahead of the game!!!

I had a Moroso Power/Speed calculator, one of those antique "slide rules" that would show you how much horsepower it took to put X number of pounds through the quarter mile in any given amount of time. Gave you MPH, too.

Of course, it was just a ballpark figure, but for comparison purposes, it was pretty educational.

I worked the numbers on my friend's Street Roadster and found out that it was taking about 50 horsepower MORE to run any given number than it would take if he had Judy Lilly driving the car...

SO, I wrote a letter to National DRAGSTER with my findings and suggested to the editor (Bill Holland, at the time), that they weigh the drivers with the cars. He ridiculed the idea, and asked if I thought the drivers should be weighed in their Jockey Shorts, or fully clothed???? He thought it was hilarious... and, un-enforceable.

It wasn't much longer, after that, that some big-guy Pro Stock drivers successfully prevailed upon NHRA to make the driver weight a part of the classification weight. Apparently, Don Nicholson and Dick Landy had more "pull" than I did. No kidding.... Imagine that!!! lol!

Never heard a PEEP from Mr. Holland.... LOL! Not a f'n word.... Wonder what he thinks, now???

For a good laugh, grab the March 20 issue of Nat'l. DRAGSTER and check out the text at the bottom of page 20 under "What's NEW?"; the Stocker segment at the bottom of the page. Somebody named John Bailey is going to have a Firebird that can EASILY go head-to-head with the new CJ Mustangs... LOL!!!


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Old 04-01-2009, 06:13 PM   #84
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Hey Ed
Who was it. Also you going to atco this weekend.
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:13 PM   #85
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Hey Ed
Who was it. Also you going to atco this weekend.
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Hi Dennis;
Since I guess my posts are invisible the answer is Bob Shaw @ 16.357 (-.543).
No to Atco this week.Birthday on Friday with family.Now I can sing along with the Beatles (When I'm 64).
No job yet,so the season looks lost so far.See you down the road.

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Old 04-01-2009, 09:26 PM   #86
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Happy Birthday Ed many more.

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Old 04-02-2009, 12:03 PM   #87
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Maybe the cars need to stay in their origanal class and not be able to move up or down race to race. It would make it tougher to avoid heads up races. Some of us more senior racers can remember when s/ss was the most popular eliminator, sure miss that.
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:44 PM   #88
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How about when it was about the only eliminator.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:19 PM   #89
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What if your car is 230 or so pounds over weight...nothing you can do about it as far as taking weight out unless you go through the car a gut it even more...i weigh the better part of 320 and the super stocker i drive is 230 over the min... but there is nothing more that can be done to reduce the weight in the class i run it in....also im not trying to run a class to hide this in the natural class for year model and motor....im taking the 165 allowed for the driver and ate it for breakfast and ridin with twins...lol
I wonder how much TOBYS car weights?????????
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:19 PM   #90
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I wonder how much TOBYS car weights?????????
If Toby's(and anyone else's car) is over max running over the scales will show how much and the driver will have to adjust it or go down to the next class for that race.If it's a case where it's not possible to
stay in that class then the driver/owner will have to work it out to either have the shipping weight reviewed
or the car will have to run at the next class.I'm not ragging on large people but let's face it.It isn't a perfect world,we can't always get what we want.Many moons ago my ambition was to join the NYPD.I wore contact lenses at the time and took the written test,which i passe with flying colors.Long story short,
20/30 vision uncorrected,I didn't meet the standard,just as someone who was ,lets say fond of eating,
couldn't scale a 6' wall.I accepted that fact and moved on.If your size prevents you from making the max weight either change combos,have the shipping weight verified or just move down one class.It's not rocket science you know.
Again any large starred people don't take my post as a stab at you but we all can't always get what we want in life.

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