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Billy Nees 03-30-2009 09:59 AM

Overweight Stockers
 
Ya know, I was having a discussion with somebody on another thread about Stock Racers adding weight to their cars to slow them down. Well, me being me I had to get out my trusty old 09 rulebook to have a looksee at weight. Now this is MY humble interpretation of MY black and white rule book (the only gray areas that I can find are in the pictures) but if I am classified as an A/SA car then my car MUST weigh between 8.00lbs. per HP and 8.50lbs. per HP or I'm not classified in the right class and should be DQed. In other words if my car scales at say 8.56 then I'm a B/SA car and should be classified as one. I can't go across at 7.92 and run A/SA so seeing as there is technically a minimum and maximun weight in the RULES why shouldn't it be enforced?
I do know that this was a bit of an issue at the Gainesville points race and after thinking about it I believe that the tech inspector was correct.

John Mason 03-30-2009 10:50 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
I agree. On the other hand, I've often wondered why it's done other than to a car with traction issues? It makes things more prone to breakage. Why not just take timing out? I had a former Stock National Champion show me how he slowed his down .40 by pulling out 25 degrees.

Jeff Teuton 03-30-2009 10:53 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
I was told at the Gainsville Points and Gatornationals that a car must fit the class when it crosses the scales. I was asked to spread the word that this would be enforced.

X-TECH MAN 03-30-2009 11:12 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
What about over weight DRIVERS........LOL

treessavoy 03-30-2009 11:15 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
I can't speak for today's racers but in the past some racers would show up at a race and find some heavy hitter in their class and move down a class by adding the 100lbs the NHRA allows giving them a better chance in case they ended up in a heads up situation.

Jim

Billy Nees 03-30-2009 11:28 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Treesavoy, I'm not talking about adding weight to drop a class, I'm talking about running A/SA at B/SA weight to slow the car down.

Ron Ortiz 03-30-2009 11:41 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Billy, I believe that you are correct. The rule book has the classes broken into half pound increments. It also states that weight can be added / removed to move to another class. Therefore its weight should comply with its class.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA being fat is OK

RockyJ 03-30-2009 11:44 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Billy : I know you must be waiting for someone else to point this out, so
if the 1978-79 caddy is 400 lbs heavy in u/sa ,that would mean that it would be
illegal under this interpretation of the weight rule.
The very reason that myself and another AZ racer decided not to build one of
those cars. Just in case nhra decided to enforce their own rules. Combo gone!!

Charley Downing 03-30-2009 11:55 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
At the Orlando pts the div 2 tech director ( Jim C) told racers that they must weight no more then the minimum for the next class up. Example if in you were running D/SA you could not weight more then the Minimum for E/SA with your combo. At the Gatornationls I went over the scales more then 150 pounds heavy and the div 2 tech director Jim C told me I would need to take 30 pounds out to make my car legal. After that run I went and talked to two of the national tech directors. They then told me that there was no such rule and I could run as heavy as I wanted to and not to worry about it.

Brandon Peterson 03-30-2009 12:31 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
What if your car is 230 or so pounds over weight...nothing you can do about it as far as taking weight out unless you go through the car a gut it even more...i weigh the better part of 320 and the super stocker i drive is 230 over the min... but there is nothing more that can be done to reduce the weight in the class i run it in....also im not trying to run a class to hide this in the natural class for year model and motor....im taking the 165 allowed for the driver and ate it for breakfast and ridin with twins...lol


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