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Old 09-09-2013, 12:33 AM   #1
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Default Are COPO's, CJ's and Drag Packs good for our sport?

I, for one, believe that they are good for drag racing....You have all heard the reasons....Especially, "Win on Sunday" sell on Monday. As an old timer, and in my case, really, how many 1968 Dodge Darts or 1969 Roadrunners drag cars are going to help sales for the dealerships? At best, the spectator will say, "wow, they really had some cool cars 45 years ago"....but realistically, the new cars can generate sales/profits for the manufacturer and dealers.....Maybe that will create additional financial interest in our sport.

I believe that once the horsepower deals get worked out.....the new cars will help our sport....Your comments are welcomed.
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Old 09-09-2013, 03:57 AM   #2
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Default Re: Are COPO's, CJ's and Drag Packs good for our sport?

Yes absolutely. "A rising Tied lifts all boats"

Certainly has brought more attention to Stock/Super Stock classes.

Outside of the NHRA Racing family there seems to have been a little bit of a resurgence of drag specific parts interest and sales for late model vehicles. I notice it on other car forums that are not drag racing specific that more threads pop up about going to the track for the 1st time and also buying parts specifically to lower ETs.

For some of us that wasn't around in the "good ole days" with the factory teams duking it out. This is our "good ole days" where we get to partake in the excitement this go around.
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:38 AM   #3
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Default Re: Are COPO's, CJ's and Drag Packs good for our sport?

Not good for the sport, unless they are all equal.

Supercharged vs Naturally aspirated?????

When did that become equal?

It only became legal when Ford became a sponsor and started sucking on the NHRA's tailpipe. And it is no coincidence that Ford was the only one with a supercharger running in Stock and later in Super Stock.

They got the "Make Your Own Air" edge.

And then Chevy was next. A supercharged Copo. And suddenly the Fords had a little real competition. But they had already owned the playground, and ruled the roost for quite a while, so who could now object to a bow tie winning a few races. It only seemed fair. And another supercharged car competed with naturally aspirated cars.

Chrysler was NOT allowed to put a supercharger on the Drag Paks. Why? Because if they had, both Ford and Chevy would have had to compete with innovation, rather than just turn the screw for more horsepower.

But Chrysler will have to continue trying to do with cubic inches and the last great push rod engines, with what Ford and Chevy do with hair dryers.

But the question was not, are supercharged cars in Stock, and Super Stock fair.

So here is my answer:

Generally, the new technology cars are good for the sport because the crowds (the twelve to eighteen people, who show up for stock, and super stock) enjoy them.

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Old 09-09-2013, 08:59 AM   #4
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Default Re: Are COPO's, CJ's and Drag Packs good for our sport?

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Not good for the sport, unless they are all equal.

Supercharged vs Naturally aspirated?????

When did that become equal?

It only became legal when Ford became a sponsor and started sucking on the NHRA's tailpipe. And it is no coincidence that Ford was the only one with a supercharger running in Stock and later in Super Stock.

They got the "Make Your Own Air" edge.

And then Chevy was next. A supercharged Copo. And suddenly the Fords had a little real competition. But they had already owned the playground, and ruled the roost for quite a while, so who could now object to a bow tie winning a few races. It only seemed fair. And another supercharged car competed with naturally aspirated cars.

Chrysler was NOT allowed to put a supercharger on the Drag Paks. Why? Because if they had, both Ford and Chevy would have had to compete with innovation, rather than just turn the screw for more horsepower.

But Chrysler will have to continue trying to do with cubic inches and the last great push rod engines, with what Ford and Chevy do with hair dryers.

But the question was not, are supercharged cars in Stock, and Super Stock fair.

So here is my answer:

Generally, the new technology cars are good for the sport because the crowds (the twelve to eighteen people, who show up for stock, and super stock) enjoy them.

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do you honestly believe anything you just typed? Last great pushrod engines? yea, look at a 427 coop. I don't see people putting new hemi's in everything with wheels and some things without.......that would be the Lsx platform.
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:15 AM   #5
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Its all as **&*$ up as a soup sandwich!
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:46 AM   #6
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Default Re: Are COPO's, CJ's and Drag Packs good for our sport?

Who would have ever believed we would see $ 100,000 Stockers in the "entry level" class racer ranks ? Wow.

With that said, I think it has opened more eyes from people who never knew what NHRA Stock was about.

I hear several people at work talk about the COPO Camaros and they had no clue what Stock Eliminator was all about. (until now)

I say yes to the thread title, as long as they are factored correctly.
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Old 09-09-2013, 10:17 AM   #7
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I think it's great for the sport and my future. A few years back I was really wondering where this whole drag racing thing was taking me. Now that we have some new cars and combinations to race with it seems to have put some spirit back into the sport. I have to say it was very refreshing to see all the new cars at Indy battling it out and everyone so happy to be there doing it.

My next goal is to get more involved with the other brands, hint, hint.
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Old 09-09-2013, 01:05 PM   #8
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They are probably good for the sport, they just need to be designated Factory Experimental. They could race in Stock Eliminator and have correct index's and have the AHFS applied equally. I think this classification would help the factory make them more sought after.
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Old 09-09-2013, 02:39 PM   #9
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Default Re: Are COPO's, CJ's and Drag Packs good for our sport?

Yes, they are great for class racing.
But, running FS without penalty is wrong.
All the 1,000' qualifying and class runs need to be resolved, either by lowering the indexes, a more effective means of AHFS and factoring.

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Not good for the sport, unless they are all equal.

Supercharged vs Naturally aspirated?????

When did that become equal?

It only became legal when Ford became a sponsor and started sucking on the NHRA's tailpipe. And it is no coincidence that Ford was the only one with a supercharger running in Stock and later in Super Stock.

They got the "Make Your Own Air" edge.

And then Chevy was next. A supercharged Copo. And suddenly the Fords had a little real competition. But they had already owned the playground, and ruled the roost for quite a while, so who could now object to a bow tie winning a few races. It only seemed fair. And another supercharged car competed with naturally aspirated cars.

Chrysler was NOT allowed to put a supercharger on the Drag Paks. Why? Because if they had, both Ford and Chevy would have had to compete with innovation, rather than just turn the screw for more horsepower.

But Chrysler will have to continue trying to do with cubic inches and the last great push rod engines, with what Ford and Chevy do with hair dryers.

But the question was not, are supercharged cars in Stock, and Super Stock fair.

So here is my answer:

Generally, the new technology cars are good for the sport because the crowds (the twelve to eighteen people, who show up for stock, and super stock) enjoy them.

David
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