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Old 08-30-2025, 06:20 PM   #41
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Evidently none of the tech guys know how engines work, this should have been allowed, no advantage whatsoever.
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Old 08-30-2025, 08:14 PM   #42
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Qualifying and class were over. There was no chance to fix it and run again. There are alot of things that are not a performance advantage that are illegal in class racing. Its not techs job to decide what they will let go thru in the barn because the rule doesnt help performance.
Someone was told.they couldnt run without fog lights in their bumper cover. Luckily they had them and it was taken care of.before Qualifying and class was all done.

I heard a tech official say " we bounced ....... for the same modification 2 years ago, we cant let it go today"
Thanks, wasn't sure when it all occurred...
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Old 08-31-2025, 08:19 AM   #43
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Because they haven't been available in years - the pics are of the SS780, which is NOT the SSR780.
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Old 08-31-2025, 10:01 AM   #44
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I talked to the man face to face yesterday that developed and took it to NHRA for approval. He verified that no SSR780 Quick Fuel carbs ever left QFT with holes drilled in the secondary throttle plates. QFT was sold back to Holley several years ago, im not sure anybody can verify what happened to them after that.

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Old 08-31-2025, 02:09 PM   #45
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Apparently now you can decide if you want to teardown or not
Not sure what you are referring to?? The Hemi Challenge winner and usually runner up always get torn down.
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I talked to the man face to face yesterday that developed and took it to NHRA for approval. He verified that no SSR780 Quick Fuel carbs ever left QFT with holes drilled in the secondary throttle plates. QFT was sold back to Holley several years ago, im not sure anybody can verify what happened to them after that.

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Wow! Secondary throttle plates were not drilled on QF carbs.

Now just because someone made an illegal modification to their carb and got caught, some armchair computer jockeys want NHRA to change a rule that has been there for years.
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Old 08-31-2025, 06:17 PM   #47
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I have it on good authority that the language of the rule is going to be changed to delete the word ?primary,? thereby making what the Williams Bros had done legal. Doesn?t help them this weekend though.

It?s like getting ticketed for going 35 in a 25 mph zone and then they raise the speed limit the next day.
Not really anything new....
In 1966 after being tossed for a camshaft, a few weeks later we received a letter stating the cam we had was now accepted. This was an off the shelf cam from a Chevy dealer.....
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Old 08-31-2025, 09:15 PM   #48
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How many of these cars made R1 as alternates?

------------ Not Qualified ------------

129 333 AA/S Brett McFarland, Manchester OH, '68 Camaro 9.875 10.70 -0.825
130 5351 G/SA Keith Hildahl, Northfield MN, '73 Mustang 11.178 12.00 -0.822
131 3657 O/SA Marty Buth, Freeport IL, '84 Mustang 12.331 13.15 -0.819
132 338H FS/AA Tony Fagnilli, Caropolis PA, '19 Camaro 8.584 9.40 -0.816
133 1925 K/SA Tim Barrett, Fort Ann NY, '69 Camaro 11.840 12.65 -0.810
134 329 U/SA Dan Tool, Jacksonville IL, '79 Mustang 14.049 14.85 -0.801
135 5077 B/S Jerry Mooney, Wall SD, '68 Mustang 10.459 11.20 -0.741
136 3027 I/SA Doug Deck, O'Fallon IL, '99 Mustang 11.560 12.30 -0.740
137 2586 V/SA McNeal Freeman, Conyers GA, '87 Caprice 14.768 15.50 -0.732
138 3355 R/S Timothy Weinzapfel, Mount Vernon IN, '66 13.220 13.95 -0.730
139 7832 EF/S Gary Lucier, Kingman AZ, '84 Daytona 16.760 17.45 -0.690
140 1329 D/S Denny Ford, Eighty Four PA, '62 Biscayne 10.817 11.50 -0.683
141 3139 EF/S Ron Seibenick, Perry OH, '86 Tempo 16.812 17.45 -0.638
142 319 F/SA Jim Stone, Henderson KY, '80 Corvette 11.214 11.85 -0.636
143 5502 A/S Paul Anderson, Lewiston MN, '69 Camaro 10.798 10.95 -0.152
I tnink 2 cars.In Super Stock all got used plus one car got a bye.
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Wow! Secondary throttle plates were not drilled on QF carbs.

Now just because someone made an illegal modification to their carb and got caught, some armchair computer jockeys want NHRA to change a rule that has been there for years.
So Ken?s an armchair computer jockey?
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Old 08-31-2025, 10:19 PM   #50
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I was referring to a stock racer
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