And you thought air/ electrical shifters in stockers was ?..

[Ty Kwaiser]

xix HOW TO USE THIS RULEBOOK The NHRA Rulebook provides guidelines and minimum standards for the construction and operation of vehicles used in NHRA Championship Drag Racing and at member-track events. It is the responsibility of the participant to be familiar with the contents of this Rulebook and to comply with its requirements. Do not leave it up to track officials to catch all potential rule compliance problems. That responsibility rests first and foremost with YOU ? the participant. Additional safety equipment or safety-enhancing equipment is always permitted and the levels of safety equipment stated in this Rulebook are minimum prescribed levels for a particular type of competition and do not prohibit the individual racer from using additional safety equipment. Participants are encouraged to investigate the utility of additional safety devices for your type of competition. In disputed cases, whether an item of equipment is safety enhancing or performance-enhancing will be determined by NHRA in NHRA?s sole and absolute discretion. All safety equipment must be operational if installed regardless of if the equipment is part of or in addition to the minimum required safety equipment per category. On the other hand, as to performance equipment, it is the general rule that unless optional performance equipment or performance-related modification is specifically permitted by this Rulebook, it is prohibited.

I believe the last sentence of this paragraph copied from the rulebook is in agreement with Mr. Derby City's assertion and opinion, and many of the rest of us that a "finish-line stripe taker" in stock or superstock is not in accordance with the rules.

[Jim Caughlin]

A few years backs, I had an idea about a clutch release device that I wanted to try, I decided it would be best to run it by Jerry Valentine before I built it, he pretty much cut me off half way through my explanation of what I wanted to do and vetoed my plan. His comment was "Just because the rule book doesn't say you can't do doesn't mean that you can".

Jim Caughlin
SS6019

[Cglrcng]

Yes he did Mark.

1320 video on YouTube about compressed air boosting by Ryan Mitchell in KC Max using very new technology, just running race gas and using compressed air cylinders for super boosting without turbos or blowers or nitrous. Down to 30 degree intake air temps (too cold to even keep methanol lit so he switched to pure race gas), and that innovator and extreme tester just started with the new tech. It is very fast.

Once the new shifter rule goes onto effect they will need to run more checks.

[Frank Bialas]

https://classracer.com/classforum/pi...pictureid=1908 who got the win? front dam/spoiler on camaro plus a little brake waalaa, clearly my wheel is on stripe

[Cglrcng]

Except it is there, and there is zero performance advantage. You have no need to ask when it is specified right there as allowed with minimal restrictions. Behind the leading edge of the body or bumper and 3" off the ground..."beam breaker" is specifically spelled out...See General Regulations 4.5

Done arguing, so many have the additions, the few that do not are here, the rest are silent because they have used them for years. I am just fairly 1 yr. now new to the use. I will switch it to a Tow hook. It will be more useful and a bit less controversial.

Most allofem have those in 1 fashion or another. It takes very little to break that 6" high finish line beam and we all do so each pass to the end we achieve 1320' runs. Some are just using 13" rims. My combo came with 14's (I use M.T. 20" tall X 14" X 6" wide FWD slicks, less than a 6" X 5" contact patch at 35.5 psi and a 2" tall sidewall at that pressure, and gives small tire a new meaning), and that (using a smaller than stock sized rim), is spelled out do not do.

[Cglrcng]

Originally Posted by Frank Bialas

https://classracer.com/classforum/pi...pictureid=1908 who got the win? front dam/spoiler on camaro plus a little brake waalaa, clearly my wheel is on stripe

Who got the win on the slip Frank?

[Cglrcng]

The problem was noted earlier, we do not race wheel to wheel (all different circumference sizes of wheels are used), we race beam to beam spaced 1,320' apart start beam is 3" off the ground, finish line beam is 6" off the ground. The multiple categories and
classes and many, many types of cars is
the reason. And on that day in this time
The published ruleset and NHRA
decisions stand. They change the rule, a wrench, 2 nuts and bolts and a cable tether unscrewed and the blade is removed. No crying here personally but a lot of cars will need to be otherwise unaltered in S/SS. Beyond a few...lots of em.

It is a fake advantage (meaning there is zero advantage), that has outlived its
usefulness. A crutch I certainly do not need to walk or run, and is time to go back to making us both guess which part of my car will break that beam 6" high...bumper, air dam spoiler 1, air dam deflector 2, or tire. (All in Stock locations as mfg.d and 0", 4", 14", & 28" apart under my cars front end), depending on my last 1300' plus move(s). Right now with it there I don't have any affect no matter what I choose to do.

Sometimes you get what you ask for.

[Mike Taylor 3601]

Originally Posted by tstickff

ive been saying for years, when will electronics be looked at? problem is who actually knows what to look for? now with all these racepacs, sensors,driveshaft speed sensors, what do you protest? also think they should eliminate allowing cell phones recording directly behind racecars on the starting line. just my .002

Tim Stickles

I experienced a questionable thing once 1/8 mile race IHRA years ago...
other car was chasing me about .30 at 330' his nose was in my quarter window and would gain about 12-18''and fall back and pull back up12-18'' nose of car didn't drop,front of car stayed at same ride height,this repeatedly happened from 330' to 500-600'. stuck his nose out and backed into me. YES he had about .025 advantage on RT's but it was odd watching their car surge back and forth 12-18'' and front end never drop or raise..

[Jack Matyas]

Well ! ! ! 38 posts and not one ( 1 ) stinkin picture .........

[Henry S]

I believe the rule book does state this clearly, I was told once that the rule book states only what yo can do and all else is not permitted. The bold text in the general reg identifies the ruling. Under general reg 4:5 GROUND CLEARANCE A-Arm Upright 4:4 Minimum 3 inches from front of car to 12 inches behind centerline of front axle; 2 inches for remainder of car, except oil pan and exhaust headers where permitted. When permitted under Class Requirements, devices used for anti-rotation purposes (i.e., wheelie bars) are exempt from the 2-inch clearance rule. Unless otherwise permitted by Class Requirements, the installation of a ?beam breaker? in front of the body is restricted to extending no farther forward than the body or bumper and must also satisfy the 3-inch ground-clearance requirement.

In the stock section of the rule book:
BODY Alterations or customizing prohibited; extent of customizing is limited to paint only. Convertible-top cars must run with top up. Sedan delivery, Ranchero, El Camino, etc. (if found properly classified in the Classification Guide) are eligible only if all class requirements are met. Raising and/or lowering front or rear of cars prohibited. Cars must retain level attitude at standstill, except those that have a forward rake (a permitted modification). Bottom of rocker panel cannot be higher than centerline of rear axle. Body mount insulators may be replaced with solid mounts of same size. Aluminum or other lightweight material may not be used to replace heavier items on car. In front-wheel-drive vehicles, air dams and spoilers that were available through the manufacturer are permitted front and rear This is pretty clear that it is not legal.