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Old 02-18-2013, 10:32 AM   #31
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So, it is on the Internet, not TV?
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If you have Cox Cable and Internet you will be fine.

www.espn3.com

The replay on ESPN3 is harder for me to control but you can see the flash very low on DeFrank's car. When watching the YouTube clip best I tell I could see the flash, then the next frame the red light. The flash did appear to be low, only showing up on the bottom of the spoiler.

I thought at least at national events the lights were lasers and would not be affected by things like this. Guess I was wrong.

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Old 02-18-2013, 10:46 AM   #32
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Ed,
If you have Cox Cable and Internet you will be fine.

www.espn3.com

The replay on ESPN3 is harder for me to control but you can see the flash very low on DeFrank's car. When watching the YouTube clip best I tell I could see the flash, then the next frame the red light. The flash did appear to be low, only showing up on the bottom of the spoiler.

I thought at least at national events the lights were lasers and would not be affected by things like this. Guess I was wrong.

Bill
Good eye! You can see the flash low on the drivers side of the front spoiler before the red. Sucks that Mike had to lose this way in a rerun but clearly the Defrank car didn't move to turn on the red light. Congrats to both drivers for getting there in the first place.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:53 AM   #33
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Note that the pre-stage and stage bulbs not only go out, but they STAY out, even with the car sitting there. That wasn't a flicker. How long was the camera flash?
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:44 AM   #34
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If that had been me sitting there it would have been over. I wouldn't have gotten a re-run.
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:22 PM   #35
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i am with you ed.if that would have been me or you the race would have been over.don't get me wrong i like jimmy and his dad but if you watch the pic on the starting line when jimmy's car red lighted the stage beams go out at the same time the red light came on.mike got a raw deal on that race.they should have never re run that race.watch the vid.and you be the judge.
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:50 PM   #36
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i am with you ed.if that would have been me or you the race would have been over.don't get me wrong i like jimmy and his dad but if you watch the pic on the starting line when jimmy's car red lighted the stage beams go out at the same time the red light came on.mike got a raw deal on that race.they should have never re run that race.watch the vid.and you be the judge.
Hmm, you're right, his stage beam does go out, didn't notice that when I first watched the video. I can't see the car move in the video, but that doesn't mean it didn't and just wasn't visable. I hate when this kind of crap happens and really feel bad for Mike.
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:38 PM   #37
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I can't see the car move in the video, but that doesn't mean it didn't and just wasn't visable.
It wasn't just the stage beam (ie., rocking back out of the beams). Both the pre-stage and stage lights went out simultaneously. Consider how far and how quickly the car would've had to move in order for that to happen. It would most definitely have been visible. The redlight was obviously in error.
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:45 PM   #38
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I feel for Mike, but at the end of the day he still has Paula. There are far worse outcomes.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:18 PM   #39
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I feel for Mike, but at the end of the day he still has Paula. There are far worse outcomes.
This is true...

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Old 02-18-2013, 02:45 PM   #40
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Note that the pre-stage and stage bulbs not only go out, but they STAY out, even with the car sitting there. That wasn't a flicker. How long was the camera flash?
My thoughts exactly Mike. I watched it about 10 times and the first thing that I noticed was that once the pre-stage and stage lights went out they never came back on. It wasn't a flash that caused it and Jimmy did not move. There was obviously an error in the timing system. Stinks for Mike but there was something out of Jimmy's control. My only problem is I have seen times where this type of annomoly has occurred and they did not re-run. Unless something showed them on the timing computer that an error had occurred? Ultimately I believe the right decision was made. I feel maybe they should have run the final at another race (so Mike didn't have to run back and do it again) Awful lot of emotion for someone to go through in 5 minutes.
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