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Old 08-01-2009, 09:33 AM   #31
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Hey Ed....when was the last time you drove a 9.90 170 super gas car...I bet you hated it....Its really a pretty fun ride...The old days are gone....and you have play under the current rules....whatever they may be....

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Doc is right,I run Stock with a 6 cylinder gremlin.I've been racing for 32 years now and the quickest I've ever gone was 11.22 @ 120 mph.I've had 2 cars in 32 years.I bet you'd never guess my first was also a gremlin.Had it for 25 years since new.
I really have no interest in driving a S/G car and I know S/G will never go back to the way it was.
BTW have you ever driven a S/G car the old school way?
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Old 08-01-2009, 04:15 PM   #32
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I have driven S/G the old way with no electronics and in current conditions with the computerized mega dollar crap. I prefer the less technical drag racing experience.

....and FYI Rock, I've gone 170, it wasn't all that exciting. (Doing sky high wheelies at 135 was.)

Maybe some of you guys got those go-fast-egos and can't get away from technology, but I'll tell you something. Going rounds and beating heavy hitters with no electronic "enhancement" back then sure felt good for MY ego.
Less electronics and more human.... I'm all for it.
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btw I hate the electronics so much I'm switching to Stock
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:46 AM   #33
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We have a super stocker this year...and I'm really enjoying driving it...wheels up launches...all that stuff....Its fun...no doubt about it...but my super gas car is fun also...(when your around the crew I'm around...its difficult to not have a powerful engine) and I have no intention of getting rid of it...I'm not an ego guy....just trying to give us the best chance to win....I don't write the rules...just race under them...

I think we need to get back to Coneheads hair style.....incredible....


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Old 08-02-2009, 10:22 AM   #34
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If you have a car that will run 9.88-9.91 and go .00X on the tree it doesn't matter how many MPH you run, you'll win a lot of rounds.
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:13 PM   #35
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I have driven S/G the old way with no electronics and in current conditions with the computerized mega dollar crap. I prefer the less technical drag racing experience.

....and FYI Rock, I've gone 170, it wasn't all that exciting. (Doing sky high wheelies at 135 was.)

Maybe some of you guys got those go-fast-egos and can't get away from technology, but I'll tell you something. Going rounds and beating heavy hitters with no electronic "enhancement" back then sure felt good for MY ego.
Less electronics and more human.... I'm all for it.
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btw I hate the electronics so much I'm switching to Stock
I agree!

I've been 9.90 @ 126 (wheels-up, hard launch) and @ 150, and I much prefer the wheels-up hard launch. Who knows, maybe the difference between 150 & 170 somehow makes it much more exciting, but I doubt it, and I'm not going to spend the money to find out.

Maybe the West Coast was an anomaly, but I distinctly remember (and have old photos to corroborate) completely packed stands in the later rounds of Super-Gas at national events in the late 80's and early 90's. Sure, most of the people were there to watch the pros, but they somehow found us interesting enough to stick around and hold off on the beer and bathroom break. I think one of the key items was the true win light, which eliminated the need to explain things to most of them. They could watch hard-leaving, wheels-up cars who went down the track side-by-side, and were so close at the stripe that you couldn't tell from the stands who got there first.

Incidentally, much of my career has been spent designing automotive electronics, so I could have just about any neato wazzoooo electronic toys for my car, but I prefer not to (and I can't afford the engine necessary to go the huge speeds anyway).

As much as people here want to think that the spectators don't matter, I think they are a key part of the equation that decides whether a class continues to exist.

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If you have a car that will run 9.88-9.91 and go .00X on the tree it doesn't matter how many MPH you run, you'll win a lot of rounds.
You'll win some rounds, but in changing track conditions at an unfamiliar track you may need to minimize how much stripe you take, and that's where the disadvantage of being the slow car is so big.
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:33 PM   #37
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We have a super stocker this year...and I'm really enjoying driving it...wheels up launches...all that stuff....Its fun...no doubt about it...but my super gas car is fun also...(when your around the crew I'm around...its difficult to not have a powerful engine) and I have no intention of getting rid of it...I'm not an ego guy....just trying to give us the best chance to win....I don't write the rules...just race under them...

I think we need to get back to Coneheads hair style.....incredible....


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That would call for a major rethink on what car to drive.Open bodied cars could just raise the loop in the cage.What do you do with a door slammers?How about helmets.Better chance of going back to 1983 S/G racing.
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Old 08-02-2009, 02:55 PM   #38
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I have driven S/G the old way with no electronics and in current conditions with the computerized mega dollar crap. I prefer the less technical drag racing experience.

....and FYI Rock, I've gone 170, it wasn't all that exciting. (Doing sky high wheelies at 135 was.)

Maybe some of you guys got those go-fast-egos and can't get away from technology, but I'll tell you something. Going rounds and beating heavy hitters with no electronic "enhancement" back then sure felt good for MY ego.
Less electronics and more human.... I'm all for it.
Shelley Wiley
btw I hate the electronics so much I'm switching to Stock
You are kidding yourself if you think Stock is immune to modern technology and issues to contend with. Moving to a Stocker to get away from electronics makes zero sense to me as your just trading issues. Stockers use weather stations.....Stockers use 2 steps and buttons on the brake pedal....Stockers use data collection devices to tune their engines better. Stockers routinely run in "bracket mode" during eliminations unless they have a heads-up run....You won't beat any "heavy hitters" in a heads up in a Stocker without some enhancements in your driveline at the expense of your wallet.........LOL
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That would call for a major rethink on what car to drive.Open bodied cars could just raise the loop in the cage.What do you do with a door slammers?How about helmets.Better chance of going back to 1983 S/G racing.


Trivia question for Rock and Ed.....Where were the ConeHeads from?

Hint....There are no S/G races held there.......
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Trivia question for Rock and Ed.....Where were the ConeHeads from?

Hint....There are no S/G races held there.......
Doc,I think they were from Remulack,but they always said they were from France.I bet you had a secret crush on Connie.
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