128 Car Field Qualifying - Page 4

Jim Wahl · 07-23-2008, 03:57 AM

See my thread entitled "Dear SRAC Members". It proves that the rule NHRA enacted is not what the Committee submitted! Somebody screwed up. Now will someone be big enough to fix it?Jim

Lynn A McCarty · 07-23-2008, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Bruce, I didn't realize that. I was looking for that section in an 05 rule book last night, and couldn't find it. Can someone point me to it?

Lynn, Of course ,I knew what you meant. But , how a question is phrased in a poll ,sometimes contributes to the outcome that the poll-er wants.
We know this from politics, right boys?

Yes Mark,

However, I have been around Indy and the US Nationals & the Indy 500 my whole life.

I think you are trying establish a meaning to a personal objection which is fine, but real stretch of the imagination and political spin on your part. I think the term is valid as we all use it and know what it means.

I absolutely hate poll spin, and I think your point is reverse spin, not spin on my part.

Tony Janes · 07-23-2008, 12:58 PM

The evolution of S/S&Stock Eliminator class winners only, class winners plus low qualifiers 64 car field, class winners plus low qualifiers 96 car field and until recently class winners plus low qualifiers 128 car field. If the term "bump in " is used incorrectly this does not mean it should be accepted. Seems we have to many "Indy Rules", one of twenty four on the circuit.

Bruce Noland · 07-23-2008, 01:01 PM

Tony,
Who are we to say nhra does anything incorrectly???

How many times has Eric won Indy?

Lynn A McCarty · 07-23-2008, 01:37 PM

There are lots of terms you can find things wrong with the literal meanings. This is the reason italics are used around the words with questionable meanings. Most of us use generally accepted words, and "bump" accurate or not in this town is the accepted terminology in my opinion. Not that I agree with all the literal definitions. Otherwise I would have left the italics off the term. For the Bill O'Reilly fans it a colloquialism.

Other Indiana technical terms are doofus, bitchin, bonehead, taint, and my favorite: cattywompus.

I guess if you say a class car is bitchin some people might take it negatively about a female dog in heat, but here it is one cool car!

Jim Wahl · 07-23-2008, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Tony,
Who are we to say nhra does anything incorrectly???

How many times has Eric won Indy?

What? Does any of what you posted really make sense to you? What does whether or not Eric has won Indy or not have to do with anything?

And the one that amazes me the most of anything posted over the last week, who are we? WE are the guys who pay the bills at NHRA! WE are the ones who keep the lights on in Glendora! WE are the racers! Without racers there is no need for NHRA to exist! Exactly how much does NHRA pay you anyway? Jim

Now go ahead and ban me for NOT agreeing with you Mr. Moderator

Dick Butler · 07-23-2008, 02:23 PM

Jim, Thanks for your hard work trying to get the straight story on the new 128 rule. I think everyone appreciates you getting responses from the SRAC. Seems it is based on circumstances which will not be changed. Thanks again.
Dick Butler

Jim Wahl · 07-23-2008, 03:21 PM

You're welcome Dick! Thank you for thanking me! I think we all needed to hear it straight from the source. It is what it is! Jim

Bruce Noland · 07-23-2008, 07:37 PM

Jim,
You are really over the top on this one. I was having some fun with the "who are we" comment. I asked Tony if Eric had won Indy twice becaue I wanted to know the answer. Is that OK with you?

I don't share Dick's opinion of how all this has gone down. I hope you plan on pursuing nhra as hard as you have pursued your fellow racers. I have gone after nhra a few times myself. Let me know how you do.

Jeff,
Apparently there is a designated person to record the work of the SRAC. But, nobody will ever file a law suit that involves the SRAC.

Jim Wahl · 07-23-2008, 09:13 PM

Ok Bruce you got me on this one. I got into a conversation that I shouldn't have been in. I really thought you were being serious. Sort of like what you did to Art. My bad! I was wrong. I can admit it. I pursued no individual Bruce, only the truth. BTW when are you leaving for Indy? Jim

View Poll Results: Who should determine 128 car fields?
Allow class winners to "bump" into the field.	101	42.80%
Qualify fastest 128 cars only.	135	57.20%
Voters: 236. You may not vote on this poll

07-23-2008, 03:57 AM	#31
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying See my thread entitled "Dear SRAC Members". It proves that the rule NHRA enacted is not what the Committee submitted! Somebody screwed up. Now will someone be big enough to fix it?Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

07-23-2008, 12:58 PM	#33
Tony Janes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Whittier, Ca Posts: 830 Likes: 94 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying The evolution of S/S&Stock Eliminator class winners only, class winners plus low qualifiers 64 car field, class winners plus low qualifiers 96 car field and until recently class winners plus low qualifiers 128 car field. If the term "bump in " is used incorrectly this does not mean it should be accepted. Seems we have to many "Indy Rules", one of twenty four on the circuit. __________________ Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS

07-23-2008, 01:01 PM	#34
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying Tony, Who are we to say nhra does anything incorrectly??? How many times has Eric won Indy? __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

07-23-2008, 01:37 PM	#35
Lynn A McCarty Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Plainfield (INDY) Indiana Posts: 468 Likes: 1 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying There are lots of terms you can find things wrong with the literal meanings. This is the reason italics are used around the words with questionable meanings. Most of us use generally accepted words, and "bump" accurate or not in this town is the accepted terminology in my opinion. Not that I agree with all the literal definitions. Otherwise I would have left the italics off the term. For the Bill O'Reilly fans it a colloquialism. Other Indiana technical terms are doofus, bitchin, bonehead, taint, and my favorite: cattywompus. I guess if you say a class car is bitchin some people might take it negatively about a female dog in heat, but here it is one cool car! __________________ Lynn A McCarty 3470 SS Last edited by Lynn A McCarty; 07-23-2008 at 02:04 PM.

07-23-2008, 02:23 PM	#37
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying Jim, Thanks for your hard work trying to get the straight story on the new 128 rule. I think everyone appreciates you getting responses from the SRAC. Seems it is based on circumstances which will not be changed. Thanks again. Dick Butler

07-23-2008, 03:21 PM	#38
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying You're welcome Dick! Thank you for thanking me! I think we all needed to hear it straight from the source. It is what it is! Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

07-23-2008, 07:37 PM	#39
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying Jim, You are really over the top on this one. I was having some fun with the "who are we" comment. I asked Tony if Eric had won Indy twice becaue I wanted to know the answer. Is that OK with you? I don't share Dick's opinion of how all this has gone down. I hope you plan on pursuing nhra as hard as you have pursued your fellow racers. I have gone after nhra a few times myself. Let me know how you do. Jeff, Apparently there is a designated person to record the work of the SRAC. But, nobody will ever file a law suit that involves the SRAC. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

07-23-2008, 09:13 PM	#40
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying Ok Bruce you got me on this one. I got into a conversation that I shouldn't have been in. I really thought you were being serious. Sort of like what you did to Art. My bad! I was wrong. I can admit it. I pursued no individual Bruce, only the truth. BTW when are you leaving for Indy? Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association. Last edited by Jim Wahl; 07-23-2008 at 09:45 PM.