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Old 02-27-2011, 06:20 PM   #1
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Default Oil Downs (Beat to Death)

I have been outspoken about this subect and we have had a ga-zillion comments about it. I am not racing the Winternationals this year and I am listening and watching on the internet.
The race is on hold for a Top Fuel oil down. Been down for a half an hour now, enough time to run the next complete round of Super Stock. Earlier was a similar Funny Car oil down. Yesterday evening, an Alcohol Funny car oiled over half the track. I listened to the first round of Stock and Super Stock, and recall one incident of water on the starting line, that took a minute to clean up, with about 140 cars going down the track. I may have missed some, but it certainly was not like the fuel cars where you: Make a run, clean the track, etc.
The probablilty of a Fuel Car oiling the track is (on a scale of 1 - 10) is probably around 5. The likelihood of a Stock or SuperStock car is, in my estimation, significantly less than 1. I would like NHRA to calculate the "down time" due to oil downs, on a "percapita" calculation, address the oil down problem accordingly.
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Old 02-27-2011, 06:48 PM   #2
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Make them tech in with one motor and have to use it all weekend. Eddy Hill used to run the same one all weekend in his fuel drag boat. Calm them down so they can get down the track. So what if they are a little slower the noise will still be there. And they might actually have more side by side runs.
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:23 PM   #3
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Make them tech in with one motor and have to use it all weekend. Eddy Hill used to run the same one all weekend in his fuel drag boat. Calm them down so they can get down the track. So what if they are a little slower the noise will still be there. And they might actually have more side by side runs.
Big Daddy suggested this also. I think it would do wonders for speeding things up. It would also help the small teams keep up.
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:34 PM   #4
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The way to solve this problem is simple:

Require every Stock / Super Stock / SG / SST / 9-10 second bracket car purchase a diaper, and then figure out how to get it on.

That'll fix the oildown problem.
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:45 PM   #5
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The way to solve this problem is simple:

Require every Stock / Super Stock / SG / SST / 9-10 second bracket car purchase a diaper, and then figure out how to get it on.

That'll fix the oildown problem.
I hope your trying to be funny. That's not who is oiling the tracks. I hope your kidding.

Will Prater has it right.
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:56 PM   #6
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Looks to me like they're going to have to incorporate an oil down into the first or worst rule. Oiling down the track would be the equivalent of crossing the centerline or hitting the wall. I say no freebies either.

It can't be any fun for the fans to sit through these oil downs. The fans are the ones who pay the bills for the NHRA.


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Old 02-27-2011, 10:03 PM   #7
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Bruton Smith probably had it right with Carolina Raceway,but for the wrong reason.Instead of 4 wide they should run the leakers,fuel and alcohol,one one pair and the real race cars on the other pair.For insurance purposes they would need a safer
restraining system to keep a car from jumping the center divider if they were cleaning up a leaker mess and the real cars were running at the same times.
Unfortunately it would be cost and real estate prohibitive.Too bad.
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:58 PM   #8
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one small fuel pump, 75% nitro and finally bodies that at least resemble the manufacturers product, not a submarine or giant hotdog. Doesn't matter Force will have all his 16 car qualified to make sure one of his daughters wins a championship , same thing in top fool. Better to support your local tracks and help them with putting on a stock and super stock show.
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Of course I was kidding. Wasn't that obvious?
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:06 PM   #10
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Make them tech in with one motor and have to use it all weekend. Eddy Hill used to run the same one all weekend in his fuel drag boat. Calm them down so they can get down the track. So what if they are a little slower the noise will still be there. And they might actually have more side by side runs.
X 2 But NHRA has their head up their azz ! Cut out one fuel pump, limit the blower size and overdrive. Limit the percentage of nitro in the alcohol. I remember when they used to run a 64 (Yep...Sixty Four) car top fuel field and the used one engine and usually the winner AND runner up never had the heads off during eliminations. So who cares if they slow down to high 5 second runs ? As Will says the noise and nitro smells will still be there. At least they would run a real race side by side and the little guy could afford to compete. Just look at the Nostalgia front engine fuel races going on today. Its a much better show than the crap thats out there today and there would be less oil downs. .

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