What would you do? - Page 3

Chad Rhodes · 09-24-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mannymen

Casey I have had them round down my weight, which I assume is normal.

If you round down the weight its 5-10lbs, if you round down the hp 5 hp that could be 50lbs, quite the difference

Bob Don · 09-24-2010, 04:13 PM

Round down your weight and HP? What are you people smoking? (I want some!)

mannymen · 09-24-2010, 05:17 PM

Mine was rounded down 7 lbs on my window sticker at a divisional this year. When I asked the tech inspector about it (not that it mattered) he said that's they way he/they do it.

cicero819 · 09-24-2010, 05:18 PM

Very fine line between cheating and pushing the enveloppe. Ported Acid heads are just one of the ambiguous definition of the rule. Interpretation of any laws can be taken many ways. Smokey Yunick was quoted many times saying" that if you aren't cheating you'aren't trying". How about someone who make's a genuine mistake or a manufacturer wrong number on a piston. Unless it's nitrous or flagrant use of time delay and axle counter let the tech department take care of it(most are quite efficient to find or point out where you aired.lolCR

Joe DeMarzo · 09-24-2010, 05:42 PM

I think Casey is saying we round down/up weight when it it is an odd number. For example my weight is 3367 in H/SA (11.5 X 278 plus 170) and it is rounded to 3365 as per NHRA.

If I can round my HP to 275 from 278 I have been giving away some weight, lol

Ed Fernandez · 09-24-2010, 10:54 PM

Let those who are without sin cast the first stone.I only know one being in that catogory,but I don't think he ever had a S/SS car.

Billy Nees · 09-25-2010, 09:02 AM

IMHO, if you would blatanty "cheat" then you are nothing more than a liar and a thief. Period.
BUT I am suprised at how many times I have seen the Rule Book "misinterpreted" and I do believe that it is vaguely written intentionally for just that reason.
Also, refer back to Eddy's previous post.

09-26-2010, 05:42 AM

Not one stock eliminator crank has been inspected....really?

All I know is my fathers B/SA is so rule compliant and truly stock and we used to be the fastest back in 1993-1994 ....I know cutting down the crank and, offset piston pins along with lightening the crank as well with making our stock intake manifold act like a single plane with micro holes where tech can't see and a lot more stuff has our combo to be....well...very fast...not our stuff but everyone else's...I'm sure if I was in teardown and lead the tech to more of these such gray areas we could all play on the same playing field, otherwise its a joke.....We are the most legal car out there and being stomped on......its not fun....not fun at all.

Ed Fernandez · 09-26-2010, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Fuller

Not one stock eliminator crank has been inspected....really?

All I know is my fathers B/SA is so rule compliant and truly stock and we used to be the fastest back in 1993-1994 ....I know cutting down the crank and, offset piston pins along with lightening the crank as well with making our stock intake manifold act like a single plane with micro holes where tech can't see and a lot more stuff has our combo to be....well...very fast...not our stuff but everyone else's...I'm sure if I was in teardown and lead the tech to more of these such gray areas we could all play on the same playing field, otherwise its a joke.....We are the most legal car out there and being stomped on......its not fun....not fun at all.

Could someone familiar in jibberish translate this post back into English?

Jim Wahl · 09-26-2010, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Fuller

Not one stock eliminator crank has been inspected....really?

All I know is my fathers B/SA is so rule compliant and truly stock and we used to be the fastest back in 1993-1994 ....I know cutting down the crank and, offset piston pins along with lightening the crank as well with making our stock intake manifold act like a single plane with micro holes where tech can't see and a lot more stuff has our combo to be....well...very fast...not our stuff but everyone else's...I'm sure if I was in teardown and lead the tech to more of these such gray areas we could all play on the same playing field, otherwise its a joke.....We are the most legal car out there and being stomped on......its not fun....not fun at all.

Ummmmmmmm...................................what? Jim

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09-24-2010, 04:13 PM	#22
Bob Don VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Greater Boston Posts: 1,495 Likes: 1,114 Liked 900 Times in 191 Posts	Re: What would you do? Round down your weight and HP? What are you people smoking? (I want some!) __________________ Bob Don 128 SS

09-24-2010, 05:17 PM	#23
mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 728 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: What would you do? Mine was rounded down 7 lbs on my window sticker at a divisional this year. When I asked the tech inspector about it (not that it mattered) he said that's they way he/they do it. __________________ N/A

09-24-2010, 05:18 PM	#24
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: What would you do? Very fine line between cheating and pushing the enveloppe. Ported Acid heads are just one of the ambiguous definition of the rule. Interpretation of any laws can be taken many ways. Smokey Yunick was quoted many times saying" that if you aren't cheating you'aren't trying". How about someone who make's a genuine mistake or a manufacturer wrong number on a piston. Unless it's nitrous or flagrant use of time delay and axle counter let the tech department take care of it(most are quite efficient to find or point out where you aired.lolCR Last edited by cicero819; 09-25-2010 at 10:32 AM.

09-24-2010, 05:42 PM	#25
Joe DeMarzo Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mahopac, NY Posts: 666 Likes: 48 Liked 113 Times in 9 Posts	Re: What would you do? I think Casey is saying we round down/up weight when it it is an odd number. For example my weight is 3367 in H/SA (11.5 X 278 plus 170) and it is rounded to 3365 as per NHRA. If I can round my HP to 275 from 278 I have been giving away some weight, lol __________________ Joe DeMarzo 1317 STK

09-24-2010, 10:54 PM	#26
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: What would you do? Let those who are without sin cast the first stone.I only know one being in that catogory,but I don't think he ever had a S/SS car. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

09-25-2010, 09:02 AM	#27
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,486 Likes: 3,587 Liked 7,682 Times in 1,730 Posts	Re: What would you do? IMHO, if you would blatanty "cheat" then you are nothing more than a liar and a thief. Period. BUT I am suprised at how many times I have seen the Rule Book "misinterpreted" and I do believe that it is vaguely written intentionally for just that reason. Also, refer back to Eddy's previous post. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

09-26-2010, 05:42 AM	#28
Jason Fuller Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What would you do? Not one stock eliminator crank has been inspected....really? All I know is my fathers B/SA is so rule compliant and truly stock and we used to be the fastest back in 1993-1994 ....I know cutting down the crank and, offset piston pins along with lightening the crank as well with making our stock intake manifold act like a single plane with micro holes where tech can't see and a lot more stuff has our combo to be....well...very fast...not our stuff but everyone else's...I'm sure if I was in teardown and lead the tech to more of these such gray areas we could all play on the same playing field, otherwise its a joke.....We are the most legal car out there and being stomped on......its not fun....not fun at all. Last edited by Jason Fuller; 09-26-2010 at 05:54 AM.