dot compliance - Page 3

Rob Petrie E395 · 12-06-2009, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark callanan

My mother who could not drive a hot nail in a snowbank Rented the biggest RV she could find last year hooked a car to the back of it and set out with her lady friends to knock down every pole, gas pump and mail box between her house and california NO PROBLEM.

That right there was funny....

The sad part is it is 100% the truth and they auctually did hit all of the above on thier month long trip. She does not think it is as funny as I do but she does say thank god she paid for the extra insurance and did not get a binder on her auto policy as most people do.

63corvette · 12-06-2009, 06:39 PM

You only need a CDL and all the documentation if you are driving a commercial vehicle.
I have been through all of this this year.
I have a diesel pusher motor home which is listed with a gvw of 32,000.
I need and have a class B non commercial.
I can tow a trailer of 10,000 lbs gvw or less with that license.
I can get a class A and tow a trailer of more than 10,000 gvw which is also good for the 26,001 gvw pickup and trailer combination.
As long as you are not a commercial operation you do not need the CDL.
The Class A & B use the same testing programs as the CDL you just do not the the physical and log books. I in fact had to parallel park my 40 ft motor home and never touch the curb and be within 18 inches of the curb both front and back inside a spot that looked like was about 60 ft wide without jockeying it. Not an easy task even with practice before doing it and I will never do it again.
My Class B is good for 7 years just like a regular class C and the CDL is good for only 2 years at a time I believe.
These are all Federal Rules and each state should be the same.
The way the Rules are applied is as wide spread as the number of officer's enforcing them.
Been There And Done It This Year

Tom Moock · 12-06-2009, 07:30 PM

63corvette, How many axles does your trailer have? 2 axles rated at 5,200 = 10,400, DOT goes by what axles are rated at, not weight sticker on trailer plate, If you have a 3 axles trailer i would not drive in Nebraska with out CDL, You can call me when they put you out service at scale, so you can leave because i have a CDL , I`ve already had to do this for a friend. also had to do this at north scale on interstate 29 in missouri. Plus i took my log book with me.Tom

63corvette · 12-06-2009, 07:56 PM

My trailer is a 2 axle with a gvw of 9,670 so I am safe.
I do not pull a stacker like many do.
I have been through Neb. many times and had no trouble.
I also do not stop at the scales. No one has chased me down yet and I now have 100,000 miles mostly going racing with the trailer behind me. Most of those were without the Class B I got this last year.
Like I said it all depends on the officer who takes a look.
I have friends who have had trouble with their 1 ton dually and trailer due to the 26,001 and many officers just do not like race cars when they look inside the trailer.
Nothing is totally safe.
My 2 Cents

Keith 944 · 12-06-2009, 09:45 PM

driver for hire: i have a cdl class a with all endorsments, been driving a hazmat truck for a couple years, would much rather drive one of these big race rigs, leave room for my small racecar please, this may sound funny but putting me on your payroll would probably be cheaper than the fine! (hope this isn't highjacking of this thread) just thinking about possibilitys

BlueOval Ralph · 12-07-2009, 09:33 AM

[

NOTE the Federal Reg. says 10,001 COMBINED weight!!!
Section 391.2

QUOTE=63corvette;155096]My trailer is a 2 axle with a gvw of 9,670 so I am safe.
I do not pull a stacker like many do.
I have been through Neb. many times and had no trouble.
I also do not stop at the scales. No one has chased me down yet and I now have 100,000 miles mostly going racing with the trailer behind me. Most of those were without the Class B I got this last year.
Like I said it all depends on the officer who takes a look.
I have friends who have had trouble with their 1 ton dually and trailer due to the 26,001 and many officers just do not like race cars when they look inside the trailer.
Nothing is totally safe.
My 2 Cents[/QUOTE]

BlueOval Ralph · 12-07-2009, 09:35 AM

The key is is the tile to both in your personal name or buss name?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 63corvette

You only need a CDL and all the documentation if you are driving a commercial vehicle.
I have been through all of this this year.
I have a diesel pusher motor home which is listed with a gvw of 32,000.
I need and have a class B non commercial.
I can tow a trailer of 10,000 lbs gvw or less with that license.
I can get a class A and tow a trailer of more than 10,000 gvw which is also good for the 26,001 gvw pickup and trailer combination.
As long as you are not a commercial operation you do not need the CDL.
The Class A & B use the same testing programs as the CDL you just do not the the physical and log books. I in fact had to parallel park my 40 ft motor home and never touch the curb and be within 18 inches of the curb both front and back inside a spot that looked like was about 60 ft wide without jockeying it. Not an easy task even with practice before doing it and I will never do it again.
My Class B is good for 7 years just like a regular class C and the CDL is good for only 2 years at a time I believe.
These are all Federal Rules and each state should be the same.
The way the Rules are applied is as wide spread as the number of officer's enforcing them.
Been There And Done It This Year

Mark Callanan · 12-07-2009, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

The key is is the tile to both in your personal name or buss name?

If they consider your racing as a way to make money(if you win money no matter the amount) it doesnt matter what name it is in...

Mark Callanan · 12-07-2009, 10:43 AM

Oh one more thing no alcohol in the vehicle it isnt allowed (this mean none open or not)
The legal limit is .04

63corvette · 12-07-2009, 11:32 AM

Blue Oval Ralph my name is Rick Cates and I live in Canyon Tx. Just a retired guy who races for fun across the country for parts of the year.
When I joined this site I put the 63 Corvette as a handle not knowing it would only list that in the posts. I have tried to change it to my name and I can not figure out how to get that done.

The 10,001 is not a combined weight for pulling a trailer with a class B it is for the trailer weight alone. The class B covers a vehicle of 26,001 or more alone and restricts the trailer to 10,000. If you go over the 10,000 it takes a class A for the combined weight.

Again it all depends on the officer and how he looks at it. I drove my rig for about 8 years without anything but a class C. I went to the Highway Patrol license office before buying it and asked about license restrictions. They at that time just kept telling me it was a motor home and nothing else was needed. I tried to question that and the lady began to get angry so l left it at that.

This spring at the Las Vegas race a group of racers were discussing what type of license was required for our rigs. One from Ca and one from Az both told me I should check again so I did when I did get back home and things had changed. I was told then I needed the class B. I did get it after jumping through all the hoops for them and now I should be legal.

Just my story and experience from being there and doing it. Nothing else.

12-06-2009, 06:39 PM	#22
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 551 Likes: 127 Liked 353 Times in 102 Posts	Re: dot compliance You only need a CDL and all the documentation if you are driving a commercial vehicle. I have been through all of this this year. I have a diesel pusher motor home which is listed with a gvw of 32,000. I need and have a class B non commercial. I can tow a trailer of 10,000 lbs gvw or less with that license. I can get a class A and tow a trailer of more than 10,000 gvw which is also good for the 26,001 gvw pickup and trailer combination. As long as you are not a commercial operation you do not need the CDL. The Class A & B use the same testing programs as the CDL you just do not the the physical and log books. I in fact had to parallel park my 40 ft motor home and never touch the curb and be within 18 inches of the curb both front and back inside a spot that looked like was about 60 ft wide without jockeying it. Not an easy task even with practice before doing it and I will never do it again. My Class B is good for 7 years just like a regular class C and the CDL is good for only 2 years at a time I believe. These are all Federal Rules and each state should be the same. The way the Rules are applied is as wide spread as the number of officer's enforcing them. Been There And Done It This Year

12-06-2009, 07:30 PM	#23
Tom Moock Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 801 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: dot compliance 63corvette, How many axles does your trailer have? 2 axles rated at 5,200 = 10,400, DOT goes by what axles are rated at, not weight sticker on trailer plate, If you have a 3 axles trailer i would not drive in Nebraska with out CDL, You can call me when they put you out service at scale, so you can leave because i have a CDL , I`ve already had to do this for a friend. also had to do this at north scale on interstate 29 in missouri. Plus i took my log book with me.Tom __________________ Tom Moock 5704 STK

12-06-2009, 07:56 PM	#24
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 551 Likes: 127 Liked 353 Times in 102 Posts	Re: dot compliance My trailer is a 2 axle with a gvw of 9,670 so I am safe. I do not pull a stacker like many do. I have been through Neb. many times and had no trouble. I also do not stop at the scales. No one has chased me down yet and I now have 100,000 miles mostly going racing with the trailer behind me. Most of those were without the Class B I got this last year. Like I said it all depends on the officer who takes a look. I have friends who have had trouble with their 1 ton dually and trailer due to the 26,001 and many officers just do not like race cars when they look inside the trailer. Nothing is totally safe. My 2 Cents Last edited by 63corvette; 12-06-2009 at 07:59 PM.

12-06-2009, 09:45 PM	#25
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,193 Likes: 1,160 Liked 1,877 Times in 577 Posts	Re: dot compliance driver for hire: i have a cdl class a with all endorsments, been driving a hazmat truck for a couple years, would much rather drive one of these big race rigs, leave room for my small racecar please, this may sound funny but putting me on your payroll would probably be cheaper than the fine! (hope this isn't highjacking of this thread) just thinking about possibilitys

12-07-2009, 09:33 AM	#26
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: dot compliance [ NOTE the Federal Reg. says 10,001 COMBINED weight!!! Section 391.2 QUOTE=63corvette;155096]My trailer is a 2 axle with a gvw of 9,670 so I am safe. I do not pull a stacker like many do. I have been through Neb. many times and had no trouble. I also do not stop at the scales. No one has chased me down yet and I now have 100,000 miles mostly going racing with the trailer behind me. Most of those were without the Class B I got this last year. Like I said it all depends on the officer who takes a look. I have friends who have had trouble with their 1 ton dually and trailer due to the 26,001 and many officers just do not like race cars when they look inside the trailer. Nothing is totally safe. My 2 Cents[/QUOTE]

12-07-2009, 10:43 AM	#29
Mark Callanan Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: southern maine Posts: 383 Likes: 156 Liked 64 Times in 14 Posts	Re: dot compliance Oh one more thing no alcohol in the vehicle it isnt allowed (this mean none open or not) The legal limit is .04 __________________ Mark Callanan 1027 STK

12-07-2009, 11:32 AM	#30
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 551 Likes: 127 Liked 353 Times in 102 Posts	Re: dot compliance Blue Oval Ralph my name is Rick Cates and I live in Canyon Tx. Just a retired guy who races for fun across the country for parts of the year. When I joined this site I put the 63 Corvette as a handle not knowing it would only list that in the posts. I have tried to change it to my name and I can not figure out how to get that done. The 10,001 is not a combined weight for pulling a trailer with a class B it is for the trailer weight alone. The class B covers a vehicle of 26,001 or more alone and restricts the trailer to 10,000. If you go over the 10,000 it takes a class A for the combined weight. Again it all depends on the officer and how he looks at it. I drove my rig for about 8 years without anything but a class C. I went to the Highway Patrol license office before buying it and asked about license restrictions. They at that time just kept telling me it was a motor home and nothing else was needed. I tried to question that and the lady began to get angry so l left it at that. This spring at the Las Vegas race a group of racers were discussing what type of license was required for our rigs. One from Ca and one from Az both told me I should check again so I did when I did get back home and things had changed. I was told then I needed the class B. I did get it after jumping through all the hoops for them and now I should be legal. Just my story and experience from being there and doing it. Nothing else.