Overweight Stockers

Billy Nees · 03-30-2009, 09:59 AM

Ya know, I was having a discussion with somebody on another thread about Stock Racers adding weight to their cars to slow them down. Well, me being me I had to get out my trusty old 09 rulebook to have a looksee at weight. Now this is MY humble interpretation of MY black and white rule book (the only gray areas that I can find are in the pictures) but if I am classified as an A/SA car then my car MUST weigh between 8.00lbs. per HP and 8.50lbs. per HP or I'm not classified in the right class and should be DQed. In other words if my car scales at say 8.56 then I'm a B/SA car and should be classified as one. I can't go across at 7.92 and run A/SA so seeing as there is technically a minimum and maximun weight in the RULES why shouldn't it be enforced?
I do know that this was a bit of an issue at the Gainesville points race and after thinking about it I believe that the tech inspector was correct.

John Mason · 03-30-2009, 10:50 AM

I agree. On the other hand, I've often wondered why it's done other than to a car with traction issues? It makes things more prone to breakage. Why not just take timing out? I had a former Stock National Champion show me how he slowed his down .40 by pulling out 25 degrees.

Jeff Teuton · 03-30-2009, 10:53 AM

I was told at the Gainsville Points and Gatornationals that a car must fit the class when it crosses the scales. I was asked to spread the word that this would be enforced.

X-TECH MAN · 03-30-2009, 11:12 AM

What about over weight DRIVERS........LOL

Ed Fernandez · 03-30-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

What about over weight DRIVERS........LOL

Jennie Craig????????????????????????????????????????

Ed F.

Charley Downing · 03-30-2009, 08:26 PM

At the end of the day its up to danny and that where I got my info on this topic. Danny trumps all div tech people end of story.

Denny Steward · 03-30-2009, 08:27 PM

Jack
maybe I did not word it right, but Billy is RIGHT what I was trying to say is you must fit the class weight
ie. 8.00 to 8.49 and so on.

treessavoy · 03-30-2009, 11:15 AM

I can't speak for today's racers but in the past some racers would show up at a race and find some heavy hitter in their class and move down a class by adding the 100lbs the NHRA allows giving them a better chance in case they ended up in a heads up situation.

Jim

Billy Nees · 03-30-2009, 11:28 AM

Treesavoy, I'm not talking about adding weight to drop a class, I'm talking about running A/SA at B/SA weight to slow the car down.

Ron Ortiz · 03-30-2009, 11:41 AM

Billy, I believe that you are correct. The rule book has the classes broken into half pound increments. It also states that weight can be added / removed to move to another class. Therefore its weight should comply with its class.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA being fat is OK

03-30-2009, 09:59 AM	#1
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,493 Likes: 3,595 Liked 7,716 Times in 1,738 Posts	Overweight Stockers Ya know, I was having a discussion with somebody on another thread about Stock Racers adding weight to their cars to slow them down. Well, me being me I had to get out my trusty old 09 rulebook to have a looksee at weight. Now this is MY humble interpretation of MY black and white rule book (the only gray areas that I can find are in the pictures) but if I am classified as an A/SA car then my car MUST weigh between 8.00lbs. per HP and 8.50lbs. per HP or I'm not classified in the right class and should be DQed. In other words if my car scales at say 8.56 then I'm a B/SA car and should be classified as one. I can't go across at 7.92 and run A/SA so seeing as there is technically a minimum and maximun weight in the RULES why shouldn't it be enforced? I do know that this was a bit of an issue at the Gainesville points race and after thinking about it I believe that the tech inspector was correct. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

03-30-2009, 10:50 AM	#2
John Mason Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 147 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers I agree. On the other hand, I've often wondered why it's done other than to a car with traction issues? It makes things more prone to breakage. Why not just take timing out? I had a former Stock National Champion show me how he slowed his down .40 by pulling out 25 degrees. __________________ John Mason 7743 SS

03-30-2009, 10:53 AM	#3
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers I was told at the Gainsville Points and Gatornationals that a car must fit the class when it crosses the scales. I was asked to spread the word that this would be enforced. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

03-30-2009, 11:12 AM	#4
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers What about over weight DRIVERS........LOL

03-30-2009, 08:26 PM	#6
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers At the end of the day its up to danny and that where I got my info on this topic. Danny trumps all div tech people end of story.

03-30-2009, 08:27 PM	#7
Denny Steward Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: PORT ORANGE FL Posts: 283 Likes: 408 Liked 131 Times in 24 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers Jack maybe I did not word it right, but Billy is RIGHT what I was trying to say is you must fit the class weight ie. 8.00 to 8.49 and so on.

03-30-2009, 11:15 AM	#8
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers I can't speak for today's racers but in the past some racers would show up at a race and find some heavy hitter in their class and move down a class by adding the 100lbs the NHRA allows giving them a better chance in case they ended up in a heads up situation. Jim

03-30-2009, 11:28 AM	#9
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,493 Likes: 3,595 Liked 7,716 Times in 1,738 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers Treesavoy, I'm not talking about adding weight to drop a class, I'm talking about running A/SA at B/SA weight to slow the car down. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

03-30-2009, 11:41 AM	#10
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Overweight Stockers Billy, I believe that you are correct. The rule book has the classes broken into half pound increments. It also states that weight can be added / removed to move to another class. Therefore its weight should comply with its class. Ron Ortiz U/SA being fat is OK __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK