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Old 05-08-2014, 11:15 PM   #11
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Anyone that knows Don,knows he would not knowingly do anything against the rules. I helped him with tear down and fully expected the car to pass. The carb was on the car when he bought it and had never measured the venturi's(how many of us have bought a carb and not measured it?) The lift on the intake was .007 ovr limit on the intake and .013 under on the exhaust. Don's main problem wound up being that he trusted the parts and work of others to be up to par. I think NHRA has way over done it in this case to a guy that just loves to race and supports the NHRA in every way. His car started running good because of good old fashion hard work from the front bumper to the rear,not a carb swap! A bunch of you guys know Don and know he is the kind of guy you want for a friend,honest and hard working.
I talked to Don 3 times today and he is sick over this. You will never meet a nicer human being. He would never do anything intentional. I feel bad for him. He will be back.
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:37 PM   #12
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When did they start levying fine over things like this? In the past I remember them giving 6 or 12 months off. I guess it's all monetary now. Jim

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Old 05-09-2014, 01:28 AM   #13
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Default Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson

Now I understand NHRA's sudden love for sportsman racers. Because they work 'em like a southside Chicago pimp over his girls on a busy night.

I'd send back my credentials, membership papers and tell 'em what to do with that fine......
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Old 05-09-2014, 07:54 AM   #14
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I guess the question about this is the process as administered by NHRA. What then determined a need for a fine and if a fine is to be administered, what is the process to establish the amount?
If NHRA wants this to be a deterrent, why not spell it out? Unless the car had a dominator on it, it would seem that the punishment did not fit the crime here. The lift sure wasn't extreme.
Is this in the rulebook or amendments to the rulebook in a very specific way or is it written by a Chicago Politician?
Many of us have been in this situation and I agree the punishment doesn't fit the crime .My advise - ask for the hearing and I'm sure common sense will prevail .He'll have to put up the $1,000 to get his "day in court" but in the end they'll return it .

As for Don feeling bad - he shouldn't - it doesn't have the signs of an intentional cheat - a few thousandths of extra cam lift or venturi area isn't going to pick his car up any .
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:38 AM   #16
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Default Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson

Makes me rethink setting any records. I know my car is OK just if there is an instrumentation issue at tech and a thou off could cost me a thou it might not be worth the chance. I hope he beats this. Quite overzealous on NHRAs part.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:17 AM   #17
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Out of curiosity, does NHRA have a requirement to calibrate their measurement devices on a periodic basis and provide documentation of such?
Having worked in Industry where precision measurement is required to determine part acceptability, procedures required calibration on a regular basis.
Additionally, utilization of such instruments require specific training and documentation of such training.
I'm new to stock racing and have not had the "teardown opportunity". But, if someone was to slap a $1k fine on me.....I'd be asking these questions as a part of an appeal.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:37 AM   #18
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Out of curiosity, does NHRA have a requirement to calibrate their measurement devices on a periodic basis and provide documentation of such?
Having worked in Industry where precision measurement is required to determine part acceptability, procedures required calibration on a regular basis.
Additionally, utilization of such instruments require specific training and documentation of such training.
I'm new to stock racing and have not had the "teardown opportunity". But, if someone was to slap a $1k fine on me.....I'd be asking these questions as a part of an appeal.
Your statement makes complete sense. When the tool could make the difference between $1000 fine and disgrace or being a hero I'm afraid it only seems sensible to make sure the tools are correct and accurate. Jim

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Old 05-09-2014, 12:01 PM   #19
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I failed a teardown at the gators several years ago. My exhaust valve was .001 below the low limit. Wesley told me if I could find a caliper or mic that would read the correct size he would let me pass. I checked that valve with several calipers and they all measured the same. Needless to say I got bounced. Fixed the heads for the next race with new valves and picked up .08 so not all infractions make you go faster.
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I failed a teardown at the gators several years ago. My exhaust valve was .001 below the low limit. Wesley told me if I could find a caliper or mic that would read the correct size he would let me pass. I checked that valve with several calipers and they all measured the same. Needless to say I got bounced. Fixed the heads for the next race with new valves and picked up .08 so not all infractions make you go faster.
Always knew you were a big time cheater! See ya Saturday! Jim

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