SFI flexplate mandatory in all v8s Jan 2024 - Page 12

L.Fite · 07-21-2023, 09:24 PM

Yes... that is a problem, isn't it?

And honestly, I don't have an answer for some of these more obscure combos...

Do you grant waivers, for some combos?...
Pending an approved part?...
Hmm...
That would certainly start a whole new s--- storm now, wouldn't it?

Don't know...

Billy Nees · 07-22-2023, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Any suggestions from the guys who do value their feet and toes?

Ya know, IMHO in 21ST century America I'm far more apt to lose my "feet and toes" and other things (like my life) driving to and from the racetrack than I am in the safety of my (11,12,13,14,15 second) racecar! Do I have to even bring up what might happen when I stop to fuel up or get some groceries?
Again, IMHO if any Racer is THAT afraid of losing their "feet and toes" in their racecar then maybe that Racer should seriously consider just how much faith they have in their own abilities and/or their mechanic's abilities to give them a safe car. NHRA doesn't even have any kind of remedial Tech Inspection anymore! How am I supposed to rely on them to keep me safe?
I'll put my faith in my good old "American Iron" parts and my ability to inspect them.

L.Fite · 07-22-2023, 09:07 AM

21st Century America, that's a whole new topic...

I've always been of the opinion that you're safer on a race track than on a freeway...
Even before road rage was a thing...

In the industry I work in there may be a greater risk of injury or death than racing...

I would hope everyone that races understands the risks and would do what it takes to reduce the chance of injury...
Isn't that part of the reason for sanctioning bodies?
I think Wally would think so...

And you are correct, there is no one that looks at flywheels during tech but maybe in teardown? maybe...

Good old American iron is getting harder to find, original or aftermarket...
Just saying...

As for your ability to inspect, there are fewer people around that have your abilities...
Alot of that ability has to do with being around long enough to know what to look for...

Honestly, I would have assumed that safety equipment was covered in the General Regulations and would have gone by ET across the board...
So much for logic...
We'll just have to see where this goes...

Probably driven more by the lawyers than anything else.

Be safe, have fun...

Billy Nees · 07-22-2023, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by L.Fite

21st Century America, that's a whole new topic...
Honestly, I would have assumed that safety equipment was covered in the General Regulations and would have gone by ET across the board...
So much for logic...

The real reason for that is the local bracket tracks.
Every time NHRA comes up with a new "safety spec" or a new "has-to-be-approved part" the local tracks are forced to either turn a blind eye or lose customers to tracks that will.

L.Fite · 07-22-2023, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

The real reason for that is the local bracket tracks.
Every time NHRA comes up with a new "safety spec" or a new "has-to-be-approved part" the local tracks are forced to either turn a blind eye or lose customers to tracks that will.

True...
I've seen that more than once...

Chevy55 · 07-22-2023, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

The real reason for that is the local bracket tracks.
Every time NHRA comes up with a new "safety spec" or a new "has-to-be-approved part" the local tracks are forced to either turn a blind eye or lose customers to tracks that will.

Nobody is going to check the SFI sticker on a flexplate but if damage or injury is caused by a non SFI flexplate then the liability is 100% on the user, NHRA and the track will no longer be responsible.

Mark Yacavone · 07-22-2023, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevy55

Nobody is going to check the SFI sticker on a flexplate but if damage or injury is caused by a non SFI flexplate then the liability is 100% on the user, NHRA and the track will no longer be responsible.

At that point they will assess a fine...

Billy Nees · 07-22-2023, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy55

Nobody is going to check the SFI sticker on a flexplate but if damage or injury is caused by a non SFI flexplate then the liability is 100% on the user, NHRA and the track will no longer be responsible.

So you're telling me that if my SFI approved flexplate explodes and pieces go around and/or through my SFI approved trans shield and flexplate shield that NHRA and the track will accept full responsibility?

Chevy55 · 07-22-2023, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

So you're telling me that if my SFI approved flexplate explodes and pieces go around and/or through my SFI approved trans shield and flexplate shield that NHRA and the track will accept full responsibility?

No, I'm saying if you sign your tech card to an SFI approved flexplate and you don't have it and it explodes you're liable not the NHRA or the track.

Chevy55 · 07-22-2023, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

At that point they will assess a fine...

Might be more than that Mark.

07-21-2023, 09:24 PM	#111
L.Fite Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 517 Likes: 556 Liked 497 Times in 243 Posts	Re: SFI flexplate mandatory in all v8s Jan 2024 Yes... that is a problem, isn't it? And honestly, I don't have an answer for some of these more obscure combos... Do you grant waivers, for some combos?... Pending an approved part?... Hmm... That would certainly start a whole new s--- storm now, wouldn't it? Don't know...

07-22-2023, 09:07 AM	#113
L.Fite Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 517 Likes: 556 Liked 497 Times in 243 Posts	Re: SFI flexplate mandatory in all v8s Jan 2024 21st Century America, that's a whole new topic... I've always been of the opinion that you're safer on a race track than on a freeway... Even before road rage was a thing... In the industry I work in there may be a greater risk of injury or death than racing... I would hope everyone that races understands the risks and would do what it takes to reduce the chance of injury... Isn't that part of the reason for sanctioning bodies? I think Wally would think so... And you are correct, there is no one that looks at flywheels during tech but maybe in teardown? maybe... Good old American iron is getting harder to find, original or aftermarket... Just saying... As for your ability to inspect, there are fewer people around that have your abilities... Alot of that ability has to do with being around long enough to know what to look for... Honestly, I would have assumed that safety equipment was covered in the General Regulations and would have gone by ET across the board... So much for logic... We'll just have to see where this goes... Probably driven more by the lawyers than anything else. Be safe, have fun...