Speeds in S/G - Page 2

S/G 386N · 01-14-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan Dillman

I honestly cant see a big deal trying to judge the finishline when im running 156 to 158 and the other guys coming on me at 165 actually i cant judge the finish line that well any way so that was just my 02. To me its not worth it to spend an extra 10 or 12k to pick up MAYBE 7 to 10 mph. I think we might try to run alchohol to try to get to about 160 but im not sure if the tank in the back would work im just not sure it the belt drive pump could keep up with it. Any suggestions??????

We had no issue with the belt drive pump in our dragster when we were running alcohol. Actually think we might be making more hp with gas on our engine though, with such a big CI. I run 9.90 @ 161-162, and I think I was the fast car in every round I went last year, except maybe one. Was to the red Corvette with the Diamond Engine motor in it. He ran around 170mph. Went flying past me around 1000' at the Indy divisional last year in 1st round. He went something like 9.70, while I hammered the brakes to slow down to a 9.95. Then again, I couldn't make it out of the second round at all last year, no matter how close to 9.90 the car was, somebody else was a hair better.

Jeff Beckman · 01-14-2009, 10:21 PM

Eddie, he holds up 37 fingers for you!!!!!!!!!!!

Barney B · 01-15-2009, 08:19 AM

"while I hammered the brakes to slow down to a 9.95"

JJ you ment to say you pushed softly on your brake pedal

BB

Jeff Beckman · 01-16-2009, 07:24 PM

Ryan, most roadsters like mine and yours have the cell in back. It will work fine, WD 40 will be your new best freind with BEER/Alcohol for fuel.

Bryan Gillespie · 01-16-2009, 08:13 PM

Oopps

Ryan Dillman · 01-16-2009, 10:07 PM

Thanks for the info john i have ran alchohol before and have a belt drive pump already just wasnt sure if it would work with tank in back i had the tank in front on the car i had it on before. Dont really want to mess with buying a new pump and all that mess the car works fine like it is on Q16 just really wanted to run the alchohol for the cooling part. Thanks for all the input from everyone.

Eddie Arnold Jr. · 01-13-2009, 04:22 PM

Charlie ,,, you nailed my plan for 2009

"and I'm really feeling that with some testing in the converter and tire area, these guy will easily be into the 170's "

Dave ,, $20K is close

When I switched last year from a small block , it cost me $23K ,,,, I had to get Complete motor , engine plate, headers , gears , different converter ( The bad *** Red one from Hughs ) , Transmission , tires , box to shift on time and Diapers/Toilet paper for me ,,,, ( hey , I hope my wife isn't reading this post ,,,,Turning Money into Noise !! ) ---- On the plus side the sell of my Small Block , trans , gears , converter , tires etc ,,,, did get me
almost 1/2 the $ back ( one of my friends is putting the Small Block in a Chevette

Colorful 37

Ryan Dillman · 01-13-2009, 04:44 PM

Dave

It would be a belt drive pump with tank in back with carb......... i had a nova that had the tank in the front and it did fine just worried about it being in the back on the roadster.

bmac · 01-13-2009, 05:37 PM

Make sure its a good belt drive pump BLP etc and that the fuel isnt forced to climb anymore then 12 inch in height from cell exit height to imput on pump and run a minimum of #8 return line all the way to the rear tank. Been running alky a very long time and front tank is better but rear tank worked ok.

CBS · 01-13-2009, 05:41 PM

The speed thing is self governing....for us.....we go high 160's and its still managable..the problem is the motors are expensive and don't last near as long....

we are probably one of the guys you are talking about....but I don't think we will be going any faster.....we feel this is kind of the ceiling....I know some guys are going 170's....but being on the stop so long is boring...and if you have an issue....the issue lasts longer....which in turn causes the car to be screwed up....

I can tell you ....its not that easy to get a high horsepower car good on the stop.....so you slower guys should welcome the guys that want to go over 170....because its tough to make them consistent....

I still think about 165 is the place to be.....about 1050 hp........my 2 cents....

cbs

01-14-2009, 10:21 PM	#2
Jeff Beckman Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 308 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speeds in S/G Eddie, he holds up 37 fingers for you!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Jeff Beckman 318J ET, SG 318T SC

01-15-2009, 08:19 AM	#3
Barney B Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wadsworth, Ohio Posts: 510 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speeds in S/G "while I hammered the brakes to slow down to a 9.95" JJ you ment to say you pushed softly on your brake pedal BB

01-16-2009, 07:24 PM	#4
Jeff Beckman Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 308 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speeds in S/G Ryan, most roadsters like mine and yours have the cell in back. It will work fine, WD 40 will be your new best freind with BEER/Alcohol for fuel. __________________ Jeff Beckman 318J ET, SG 318T SC

01-16-2009, 08:13 PM	#5
Bryan Gillespie Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 456 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speeds in S/G Oopps

01-16-2009, 10:07 PM	#6
Ryan Dillman Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Indianapolis,IN Posts: 63 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speeds in S/G Thanks for the info john i have ran alchohol before and have a belt drive pump already just wasnt sure if it would work with tank in back i had the tank in front on the car i had it on before. Dont really want to mess with buying a new pump and all that mess the car works fine like it is on Q16 just really wanted to run the alchohol for the cooling part. Thanks for all the input from everyone. __________________ Ryan Dillman 316K S/G

01-13-2009, 04:22 PM	#7
Eddie Arnold Jr. Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Solon , Ohio Posts: 257 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speeds in S/G Charlie ,,, you nailed my plan for 2009 "and I'm really feeling that with some testing in the converter and tire area, these guy will easily be into the 170's " Dave ,, $20K is close When I switched last year from a small block , it cost me $23K ,,,, I had to get Complete motor , engine plate, headers , gears , different converter ( The bad *** Red one from Hughs ) , Transmission , tires , box to shift on time and Diapers/Toilet paper for me ,,,, ( hey , I hope my wife isn't reading this post ,,,,Turning Money into Noise !! ) ---- On the plus side the sell of my Small Block , trans , gears , converter , tires etc ,,,, did get me almost 1/2 the $ back ( one of my friends is putting the Small Block in a Chevette Colorful 37 __________________ Eddie Arnold Jr. 3934 SC, SG

01-13-2009, 04:44 PM	#8
Ryan Dillman Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Indianapolis,IN Posts: 63 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speeds in S/G Dave It would be a belt drive pump with tank in back with carb......... i had a nova that had the tank in the front and it did fine just worried about it being in the back on the roadster. __________________ Ryan Dillman 316K S/G

01-13-2009, 05:37 PM	#9
bmac Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Speeds in S/G Make sure its a good belt drive pump BLP etc and that the fuel isnt forced to climb anymore then 12 inch in height from cell exit height to imput on pump and run a minimum of #8 return line all the way to the rear tank. Been running alky a very long time and front tank is better but rear tank worked ok.

01-13-2009, 05:41 PM	#10
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Speeds in S/G The speed thing is self governing....for us.....we go high 160's and its still managable..the problem is the motors are expensive and don't last near as long.... we are probably one of the guys you are talking about....but I don't think we will be going any faster.....we feel this is kind of the ceiling....I know some guys are going 170's....but being on the stop so long is boring...and if you have an issue....the issue lasts longer....which in turn causes the car to be screwed up.... I can tell you ....its not that easy to get a high horsepower car good on the stop.....so you slower guys should welcome the guys that want to go over 170....because its tough to make them consistent.... I still think about 165 is the place to be.....about 1050 hp........my 2 cents.... cbs