Doing an NFL on the NHRA Divisions...

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Thanks but no thanks Ed, I left Colorado to get away from needing stuff like that...it's funny that people from Div's 1-3-5 (most notibly the latter two) come out here to the valley of the sun to get away from that kind of frosty cold "stuff" (I wasn't raised to use such words as you did, sorry). No, I wouldn't want half of your tracks to close (you missed my point for thinking that), because a few of them I hope/pray to someday acquire the funds needed to race at...because of their history within the NHRA.

A new Idea I have (that might even get respect from you Ed), is that NHRA either expand the out of division races one could claim to 3 (instead of the current two), or allow national open races to become points earning races too---they should do this given that in some places the events charge the racers the same entry fees as regular divisionals.

Now how do you feel about that idea Ed???

You cant change the fact that if you live in the middle of nowhere(racing wise) travel is going to kill you if you're on a budget.That's the whole basic fact that this thread is about.If you think it's not so then just pack your bags and move to Disneyland into the Fantasyland area of the park.Enough,I'm done.

Ed F.

I'm sorry if my use of the word **** offends your moral fiber.Maybe you should have gone into the ministry.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

You cant change the fact that if you live in the middle of nowhere(racing wise) travel is going to kill you if you're on a budget.That's the whole basic fact that this thread is about.If you think it's not so then just pack your bags and move to Disneyland into the Fantasyland area of the park.Enough,I'm done.

Ed F.

I'm sorry if my use of the word **** offends your moral fiber.Maybe you should have gone into the ministry.

You're funny Ed, and I even gave you kudos in another segment of this site (about Mike Meier & his Spirit), and your car as well. Ministry?? Not my calling in life, but I wish you would've responded to my latest idea...maybe that was your response, I duno...

Unless any of you other racers have thoughts to share as well, them I'm done with this too, however I hope at least my latest two idea's will be given a serious look by those of you who have connections with NHRA???

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

You're funny Ed, and I even gave you kudos in another segment of this site (about Mike Meier & his Spirit), and your car as well. Ministry?? Not my calling in life, but I wish you would've responded to my latest idea...maybe that was your response, I duno...

Unless any of you other racers have thoughts to share as well, them I'm done with this too, however I hope at least my latest two idea's will be given a serious look by those of you who have connections with NHRA???

Gary;
If chasing points are that important then including opens in the points series will cut down some travel,but I bet it wont change things for the guys who are low budget.(0% of us race with the reaqlization that we wont make it to the top 10 in national points.Top 10 in the division usually requires 7 to 8 divisionals.I got lucky and made it to #5 and #7 in div.1.the other 6 years I was cannon fodder for the regulars.(I sat out 2004,lack of funds).And it's getting harder every year to place with the quality of racers out there.Like I've said 100 times before,life never was,isn't now and never will be fair.Some will always have the upper hand.Cant make it any plainer than that.

Ed

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Gary;
If chasing points are that important then including opens in the points series will cut down some travel,but I bet it wont change things for the guys who are low budget.(0% of us race with the reaqlization that we wont make it to the top 10 in national points.Top 10 in the division usually requires 7 to 8 divisionals.I got lucky and made it to #5 and #7 in div.1.the other 6 years I was cannon fodder for the regulars.(I sat out 2004,lack of funds).And it's getting harder every year to place with the quality of racers out there.Like I've said 100 times before,life never was,isn't now and never will be fair.Some will always have the upper hand.Cant make it any plainer than that.

Ed

Well Said Ed, but I'll give you two examples of Div V racers that (based on what we all can see just by checking out the points standings), would be helped if NHRA would decide to allow national open races to count as divisionals:

1. Randy Hyman...He earned 40 pts and finished 105th out of 146 Div. V stock racers. If Bandimere Speedways "Night of Fire & Thunder" race which is a national open counted for points, and he repeated that 2nd rnd finish, he would've leap frogged up to 64th place. His tow would be 24 to 34 miles (round trip! It would be like he was in your Division???)! and if he could tow the approx. 120 miles from his Lakewood, Co. home to Pueblo, Co (125 miles, maybe), then he'd have 3 divisional points counting races w/o having to leave Colorado...kind of sounds like Nj., Oh, or Tx. to me??? On top of that he would've vaulted past Bob Gipson to finish 39th in Div. V with less than 300 miles covering those three races (round trip). A better finish at any of those races and he would've been a player in his divisions points chase.

2. Steve Hagberg...He earned 330 points, and finished 4th officially (but is tied for 2nd also in Div. V). With those same races in mind he would've saved nearly 2000 miles worth of driving, the fuel expense, and the extra time involved could he have replaced his Earlville, Ia. with the Kearney, Ne. open, plus his Noble, Ok race with either Pueblo, Co., or Pierre, Sd.'s opens. Finally he could've replaced his Las Vegas divisional with the Bandimere national open (that would've been a 675 mile one-way alone savings!!!).

Thus my initial purpose for this thread...there are solutions out there (and every little bit would help), question is will NHRA hear to any of them? I remember reading last season that some facet of the NHRA was going to be the supporter of us the sportsman racers "THE BACK BONE OF THE NHRA"...well I was born in Missouri (THE SHOW ME STATE), so ok NHRA, don't just show me, SHOW US!!!

HAVE A GREAT AND SAFE THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMAS, & A SUCCESSFUL 2009 ED!