2009 Rule Changes

[John Quinn]

I see they dropped the 2500 pound rule in SS/GT. Can you run an automatic on a stick only engine in GT?

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley

still cant run a racing seat in stock?

common sense lost again. they don't want your legs to get burned, however being ejected due to teh failure of a 40 year old seat s ok. Morons

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

common sense lost again. they don't want your legs to get burned, however being ejected due to teh failure of a 40 year old seat s ok. Morons

The failure of a 40 year old seat would probably be at the mounting positions.I'd say that the car owner,not NHRA would be the moron,for not checking the mounting bolts and possibly reinforcing them if they were suspect.NHRA has a 2 year rule on belts,a little overkill maybe,but if anybody waqs hurt due to a belt problem this board would be alive with criticism of NHRA because their belt rule didn't protect the driver.What ever happened to personal responsibility and looking out for yourself when you assemble/race a car?


Ed F.

[Tom Goldman]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

The failure of a 40 year old seat would probably be at the mounting positions.I'd say that the car owner,not NHRA would be the moron,for not checking the mounting bolts and possibly reinforcing them if they were suspect.NHRA has a 2 year rule on belts,a little overkill maybe,but if anybody waqs hurt due to a belt problem this board would be alive with criticism of NHRA because their belt rule didn't protect the driver.What ever happened to personal responsibility and looking out for yourself when you assemble/race a car?


Ed F.

Ed, I seem to remember having to rebuild your drivers seat a E-town before making a run. ....Kinda looked like a refugee from a Jerry Stine car !!! LOL. ... I gotta agree with Mickey, the allowance of a true racing type seat in cars going over 130 mph,or below, is way overdue.....I'm all for trying to keep Stock simple,but let's face it , we've got disc brakes,wheelie bars,ect. this one is makes sense for safety. .....Some of the bucket seats in newer cars weigh almost 75#, and are bolted into sheetmetal with a couple of 5/16 bolts, Not something you want to brake loose in the event of a hi speed crash. .........Tom

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman

Ed, I seem to remember having to rebuild your drivers seat a E-town before making a run. ....Kinda looked like a refugee from a Jerry Stine car !!! LOL. ... I gotta agree with Mickey, the allowance of a true racing type seat in cars going over 130 mph,or below, is way overdue.....I'm all for trying to keep Stock simple,but let's face it , we've got disc brakes,wheelie bars,ect. this one is makes sense for safety. .....Some of the bucket seats in newer cars weigh almost 75#, and are bolted into sheetmetal with a couple of 5/16 bolts, Not something you want to brake loose in the event of a hi speed crash. .........Tom

Tom;
It was a seat back issue not a seat mount issue.Did you notice I bolted the tracks in a locked position?
I also used over sized bolts through the floor,with over sized washers.And I am switching seats over the winter.
It would take about maybe an hour to redrill the holes and use larger bolts.I'm not the biggest fan of NHRA but they are not our grannies.Spend more time and thought looking at your car for ways to improve your safety,maybe half as much as figuring out ways to go faster.(Not directed at anyone in particular).


Ed

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Tom;
It was a seat back issue not a seat mount issue.Did you notice I bolted the tracks in a locked position?
I also used over sized bolts through the floor,with over sized washers.And I am switching seats over the winter.
It would take about maybe an hour to redrill the holes and use larger bolts.I'm not the biggest fan of NHRA but they are not our grannies.Spend more time and thought looking at your car for ways to improve your safety,maybe half as much as figuring out ways to go faster.(Not directed at anyone in particular).


Ed

Ed, no one said make race seats mandatory. But for NHRA to prohibit me from making my race car safer may come back and bite them in the ***. Ask Woodro about stock seats in a stocker, and that was a relatively new car. When the seats in alot of these 40 year old cars were designed, the industry standards were much lower and they were designed for highway speeds. Use a little common sense here, its not anyone is under the impression these are cars straight off the showroom floor. Even SCCA allows a race seat in every class, even in SOLO low speed events.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

Ed, no one said make race seats mandatory. But for NHRA to prohibit me from making my race car safer may come back and bite them in the ***. Ask Woodro about stock seats in a stocker, and that was a relatively new car. When the seats in alot of these 40 year old cars were designed, the industry standards were much lower and they were designed for highway speeds. Use a little common sense here, its not anyone is under the impression these are cars straight off the showroom floor. Even SCCA allows a race seat in every class, even in SOLO low speed events.

Chad;
I wasn't aware that Woodrow had a problem with the factory seat during his mishap.What was the problem?

Ed

[keith ohanesian]

Ed what happens when you have a car that has studs in it?

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by keith ohanesian

Ed what happens when you have a car that has studs in it?

If the studs are floor mounted remove the seat and whiz off the stud,redrill to larger size and redrill holes in track.If the studs are on the tracks do the same as if they're floor mounted.It ain't rocket science.


Ed

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Chad;
I wasn't aware that Woodrow had a problem with the factory seat during his mishap.What was the problem?

Ed

I don't want to speak for Woodro, but suffice it to say the race seats would be better