Interest in Modified? - Page 2

Tracy Robbins · 10-30-2008, 09:26 AM

Joe - Come race in the divisions where IHRA is strong. If you base the competition level off of the event in Osceola then you would say all the classes are a joke because there were very few cars in any of the classes. Poor scheduling had some to do w/ that, on top of VA national I think. It would be great to bring modified back, I ran modified and super stock w/two cars for several years and I know where there's a couple of cars sitting that would do it again if they were to bring it back. I saw on another forum where comp is being reduced to fewer events in '09...could that be because of lack of participation? Same situation IHRA faced a couple of years ago w/modified. Just a thought.

Paul Merolla · 10-30-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty Davenport

You are kicking a dead horse.......it is all a joke.......class racing is nothing but a bunch of old fart die-hards that can't quit the addiction......where are the young guys who care about performance ????? They are either playing with their "mouse" ( computer ) or putting a muffler on their four banger.

Many of the "young guys who care about performance" are doing this:
http://www.fasteststreetcar.com/rules.html

Chris1529 · 10-30-2008, 09:53 AM

I think alot of the slow down in the stock /superstock area is just a microcosm of what has happened to the entire automobile industry and the American car culture. I am in my mid 30's and alot of the peope I know drive Honda's, Toyotas, Nissans. Those were the first cars they drove (because they were cheaper/more dependable??) and thus that is what they have purchased for themselves as time has passed and they have moved up in income brackets. They may have traded their Corola for a Highlander, but it is still a Toyota.
In past generations, this happened to be the way Chevrolet, Ford, and Mopar sold cars. The brand loyalty that the big three laid back and was dependent upon to sell cars has long since gone by the wayside.

I don't think alot of young adults that have the $$$ to compete in Stock/SS/Mod have the background to become interested in those classes. They can't identify with a Camaro, Dart, Mustang, Chevelle unless they were introduced to those cars at some earlier point in their life.

Ron Brown · 10-30-2008, 11:16 AM

Chris, I agree with you , also when their parents bought ( or let kid buy) that little piece of s@#*t they thought that it was a affordable way to get around. But the kids started figuring out ways to make them quicker and so that's what caused what we have today with all the non-domestic autos. just my $.02

jim primozic 3301 · 10-30-2008, 11:23 AM

I have had the honer to race modified starting in '92 till the end. Great group of people in the class. Sorry to see it end.
The thing that was most enjoyable is that it was a 32 qualified field. I learned how to make stuff faster and more competitive at times and how to really go the other way with it and go slower. Modified had some damn good drivers. If the class was offered to run again I would jump in with both feet. It was a very cost effective weight to cubic inch class compared to comp that is. At least for me it was. I say IHRA throw it on the table see what response you get. I'll check the yes box.
Jim Primozic ex c/ed now ss/cm and i like the door cars more.

trmnatr · 10-31-2008, 11:24 AM

All of you guys have some good points about Modified

I also had a thought very close to this, They come out with like a 283-310 class, 327-360 class and a 383-410 class and a 396-433 class and so on

Have it sort of like Pro Stock, Tunnel Ram with 2 carburetors, and race the engines in weight/hp classes or in CID classes

Basically have the rules like must have tunnel ram with two carburetors, no injection, no N.O.S, pretty much any mods as long as its a 23° head

Make rules on transmissions such as nothing Exotic. Make it for the guy who dreams about racing like a Pro in a heads up class but make it affordable and easy to race, if they dont make a class thats easy to get started in without big sponsorship or alot of $$$ Drag Racing is living a limited life

This is just reflecting my opinion, so my overall answer is YES or a similar class

Tracy Robbins · 10-29-2008, 04:36 PM

"Let's face it Class racing in IHRA is pretty much a joke IMO"

Wow...how often do you run IHRA? I think IHRA class racing is very competitive. I run a modified combination myself but would run any kind of car whether it is a traditional ss/ha or gt car as long as it fits in the super stock rules. IHRA class racing is far from a joke!

randy wilson · 10-29-2008, 05:10 PM

clas racing is not a joke. bracket racing has caused us to be a laughing stock of the racing world. can you imagine a local round track making guys dial in by their qualifing laps, the stands would be as empty as a local weekend at the bracket races. do not get all pissy, it is the truth.

Michael Kilduff · 10-29-2008, 11:12 PM

I think racers and fans alike would be interested in reviving the category. But this time around make it a doorslammer only class, and forget about weight breaks for using automatics-Door cars with manual transmissions only!

While I am in this thread let me give a shout out to Doyle Evans!

Scotty D · 10-29-2008, 11:25 PM

the fans will come back for this,and dont forget about ernie's engine builder dr dave watson still out there rowin'em also.as a helper with an organization for nothing but stickshift doorslammers(the umtr united manual transmission racers)you dont know how refreshing it is to hear this kind of chatter,it would be great to see some old corvette's and chevy 2's with little inchers and highwinding small blocks banging gears again.

10-30-2008, 09:26 AM	#1
Tracy Robbins Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Youngsville, NC Posts: 846 Likes: 3 Liked 25 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Interest in Modified? Joe - Come race in the divisions where IHRA is strong. If you base the competition level off of the event in Osceola then you would say all the classes are a joke because there were very few cars in any of the classes. Poor scheduling had some to do w/ that, on top of VA national I think. It would be great to bring modified back, I ran modified and super stock w/two cars for several years and I know where there's a couple of cars sitting that would do it again if they were to bring it back. I saw on another forum where comp is being reduced to fewer events in '09...could that be because of lack of participation? Same situation IHRA faced a couple of years ago w/modified. Just a thought. __________________ Tracy Robbins SS 9766

10-30-2008, 09:53 AM	#3
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Interest in Modified? I think alot of the slow down in the stock /superstock area is just a microcosm of what has happened to the entire automobile industry and the American car culture. I am in my mid 30's and alot of the peope I know drive Honda's, Toyotas, Nissans. Those were the first cars they drove (because they were cheaper/more dependable??) and thus that is what they have purchased for themselves as time has passed and they have moved up in income brackets. They may have traded their Corola for a Highlander, but it is still a Toyota. In past generations, this happened to be the way Chevrolet, Ford, and Mopar sold cars. The brand loyalty that the big three laid back and was dependent upon to sell cars has long since gone by the wayside. I don't think alot of young adults that have the $$$ to compete in Stock/SS/Mod have the background to become interested in those classes. They can't identify with a Camaro, Dart, Mustang, Chevelle unless they were introduced to those cars at some earlier point in their life. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

10-30-2008, 11:16 AM	#4
Ron Brown Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mt. Washington, Ky Posts: 86 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Interest in Modified? Chris, I agree with you , also when their parents bought ( or let kid buy) that little piece of s@#*t they thought that it was a affordable way to get around. But the kids started figuring out ways to make them quicker and so that's what caused what we have today with all the non-domestic autos. just my $.02 __________________ Ron Brown be back soon

10-30-2008, 11:23 AM	#5
jim primozic 3301 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Interest in Modified? I have had the honer to race modified starting in '92 till the end. Great group of people in the class. Sorry to see it end. The thing that was most enjoyable is that it was a 32 qualified field. I learned how to make stuff faster and more competitive at times and how to really go the other way with it and go slower. Modified had some damn good drivers. If the class was offered to run again I would jump in with both feet. It was a very cost effective weight to cubic inch class compared to comp that is. At least for me it was. I say IHRA throw it on the table see what response you get. I'll check the yes box. Jim Primozic ex c/ed now ss/cm and i like the door cars more.

10-31-2008, 11:24 AM	#6
trmnatr Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 168 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Interest in Modified? All of you guys have some good points about Modified I also had a thought very close to this, They come out with like a 283-310 class, 327-360 class and a 383-410 class and a 396-433 class and so on Have it sort of like Pro Stock, Tunnel Ram with 2 carburetors, and race the engines in weight/hp classes or in CID classes Basically have the rules like must have tunnel ram with two carburetors, no injection, no N.O.S, pretty much any mods as long as its a 23° head Make rules on transmissions such as nothing Exotic. Make it for the guy who dreams about racing like a Pro in a heads up class but make it affordable and easy to race, if they dont make a class thats easy to get started in without big sponsorship or alot of $$$ Drag Racing is living a limited life This is just reflecting my opinion, so my overall answer is YES or a similar class

10-29-2008, 04:36 PM	#7
Tracy Robbins Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Youngsville, NC Posts: 846 Likes: 3 Liked 25 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Interest in Modified? "Let's face it Class racing in IHRA is pretty much a joke IMO" Wow...how often do you run IHRA? I think IHRA class racing is very competitive. I run a modified combination myself but would run any kind of car whether it is a traditional ss/ha or gt car as long as it fits in the super stock rules. IHRA class racing is far from a joke! __________________ Tracy Robbins SS 9766

10-29-2008, 05:10 PM	#8
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Interest in Modified? clas racing is not a joke. bracket racing has caused us to be a laughing stock of the racing world. can you imagine a local round track making guys dial in by their qualifing laps, the stands would be as empty as a local weekend at the bracket races. do not get all pissy, it is the truth. __________________ don,t have one

10-29-2008, 11:12 PM	#9
Michael Kilduff Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Carolina Beach, NC Posts: 281 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Interest in Modified? I think racers and fans alike would be interested in reviving the category. But this time around make it a doorslammer only class, and forget about weight breaks for using automatics-Door cars with manual transmissions only! While I am in this thread let me give a shout out to Doyle Evans!

10-29-2008, 11:25 PM	#10
Scotty D Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 139 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Interest in Modified? the fans will come back for this,and dont forget about ernie's engine builder dr dave watson still out there rowin'em also.as a helper with an organization for nothing but stickshift doorslammers(the umtr united manual transmission racers)you dont know how refreshing it is to hear this kind of chatter,it would be great to see some old corvette's and chevy 2's with little inchers and highwinding small blocks banging gears again.