terrible race at fontana - Page 2

castle5 · 10-07-2008, 07:43 PM

sounds like joliet illinois too.

Woodro Josey · 10-07-2008, 08:19 PM

Yea Jim, we know how safe ours are don't we, not sure about theirs!

Rod Greene · 10-08-2008, 01:10 PM

This race and facillity are a joke and a disgrace. Track prep is nonexistant. There are no racer amenities the pa system is non hearable. It is a 4th class race track. Div 7 and Mike Rice should be embarassed.

7820 · 10-08-2008, 01:45 PM

Never had a problem with traction at Fontana...could it be your tires or suspension system? PA system....bring a radio...lots of tracks have poor PA systems.l

Ed Wright · 10-08-2008, 02:55 PM

We were in contact with a couple of friends who were there racing. They pretty much told us what was said here. Poor track prep, workers, organization, etc. They thought it was a joke also. Very dissapointed.

RacerJJ · 10-09-2008, 10:39 AM

What exactly is "good" track prep? I have made probably close to 2000 laps on the Fontana track and I have been to several other tracks. Fontana uses the same equipment that every other track I have visited uses. Fontana uses VHT, they have a drag tractor, they scrape before and after every event, and the track crew is made up of racers who know what a good track is. I raced at the D7 Finals recently in Fallon. The track was mediocre at best. The only plus was the dirty permanent restroom. Other than that, the track had a lousy PA system, the pits were mostly dirt, and the track had some cracks in it the size of the San Andreas fault. Yet, everyone raves about how great that track is because their car hooks. Did it ever occur to anyone that their car hooks there because the high altitude limits the power cars make? I guess I just don't understand why Fontana gets beat up so much. What do you want them to do? I can't speak for the contracted Security or the ticketing personnel, but the on-track crew is top notch and they are some of the most skilled in what they do. Above their skill, the track crew their simply cares and I know for a fact that the head starter will NOT let a race continue with a bad track. If you had issues with the track, check your set-up. I am willing to bet the farm that it wasn't the tracks fault. Come to any PSCA race their and see cars go deep in the 6's at over 230 mph on a small tire in the heat and in the cold.

7820 · 10-09-2008, 11:21 AM

Hey Rod I did not see your name on a Stock or Super Stock Qualifying list at the Sportnationals at Fontana.

Since Rod and Ed were not at the Sportsnationals let me clue everyone in as to what took place over the weekend. First.....Fontana did not do the track prep. The Fontana crew does show up and work on the track before racing starts and then it is handed over to NHRA.

On Saturday afternoon it rained and then it rained on Saturday night and then on Sunday morning it was sunny and warm. This is probably the worst case scenario there is for track prep. Water soaks turu and gets under the rubber duing the night......when the warm sun comes out the next morning it evaporates and causes the rubber to seperate from the concrete. Bad deal but it is a mother nature thing not a track thing.

Along with that when the problem on Sunday was recognized racing was stopped and the track was shut down for about three hours so the track crew could work on the starting area.

All weekend long lots of fast cars went down the track including 8.60 hemi cars without problems. Ony one crash and that was caused by a Super Stock racer putting his car into reverse after the finish line. My bad...should have said broke rear suspension.

Tony Janes · 10-09-2008, 12:51 PM

The Super Stock racer did not put the car in reverse, he broke a rear suspension part. Get the facts straight

Ed Wright · 10-09-2008, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7820

Never had a problem with traction at Fontana...could it be your tires or suspension system? PA system....bring a radio...lots of tracks have poor PA systems.l

What class do you run?

7820 · 10-09-2008, 01:17 PM

Super Gas/Super Pro

Opps..my bad Tony!

10-07-2008, 07:43 PM	#11
castle5 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: indiana Posts: 39 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: terrible race at fontana sounds like joliet illinois too.

10-07-2008, 08:19 PM	#12
Woodro Josey Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 805 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: terrible race at fontana Yea Jim, we know how safe ours are don't we, not sure about theirs! __________________ Woodro Josey 2002 STK

10-08-2008, 01:10 PM	#13
Rod Greene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: TN Posts: 530 Likes: 429 Liked 242 Times in 81 Posts	Re: terrible race at fontana This race and facillity are a joke and a disgrace. Track prep is nonexistant. There are no racer amenities the pa system is non hearable. It is a 4th class race track. Div 7 and Mike Rice should be embarassed. __________________ Rod Greene Real men shift for them selves. Slowly working on TA Challenger for D,E/S and a 72 Challenger for SS/K, L as if I don't have enough other projects.

10-08-2008, 01:45 PM	#14
7820 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 201 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: terrible race at fontana Never had a problem with traction at Fontana...could it be your tires or suspension system? PA system....bring a radio...lots of tracks have poor PA systems.l

10-08-2008, 02:55 PM	#15
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: terrible race at fontana We were in contact with a couple of friends who were there racing. They pretty much told us what was said here. Poor track prep, workers, organization, etc. They thought it was a joke also. Very dissapointed. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

10-09-2008, 10:39 AM	#16
RacerJJ Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: terrible race at fontana What exactly is "good" track prep? I have made probably close to 2000 laps on the Fontana track and I have been to several other tracks. Fontana uses the same equipment that every other track I have visited uses. Fontana uses VHT, they have a drag tractor, they scrape before and after every event, and the track crew is made up of racers who know what a good track is. I raced at the D7 Finals recently in Fallon. The track was mediocre at best. The only plus was the dirty permanent restroom. Other than that, the track had a lousy PA system, the pits were mostly dirt, and the track had some cracks in it the size of the San Andreas fault. Yet, everyone raves about how great that track is because their car hooks. Did it ever occur to anyone that their car hooks there because the high altitude limits the power cars make? I guess I just don't understand why Fontana gets beat up so much. What do you want them to do? I can't speak for the contracted Security or the ticketing personnel, but the on-track crew is top notch and they are some of the most skilled in what they do. Above their skill, the track crew their simply cares and I know for a fact that the head starter will NOT let a race continue with a bad track. If you had issues with the track, check your set-up. I am willing to bet the farm that it wasn't the tracks fault. Come to any PSCA race their and see cars go deep in the 6's at over 230 mph on a small tire in the heat and in the cold.

10-09-2008, 11:21 AM	#17
7820 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 201 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: terrible race at fontana Hey Rod I did not see your name on a Stock or Super Stock Qualifying list at the Sportnationals at Fontana. Since Rod and Ed were not at the Sportsnationals let me clue everyone in as to what took place over the weekend. First.....Fontana did not do the track prep. The Fontana crew does show up and work on the track before racing starts and then it is handed over to NHRA. On Saturday afternoon it rained and then it rained on Saturday night and then on Sunday morning it was sunny and warm. This is probably the worst case scenario there is for track prep. Water soaks turu and gets under the rubber duing the night......when the warm sun comes out the next morning it evaporates and causes the rubber to seperate from the concrete. Bad deal but it is a mother nature thing not a track thing. Along with that when the problem on Sunday was recognized racing was stopped and the track was shut down for about three hours so the track crew could work on the starting area. All weekend long lots of fast cars went down the track including 8.60 hemi cars without problems. Ony one crash and that was caused by a Super Stock racer putting his car into reverse after the finish line. My bad...should have said broke rear suspension. Last edited by 7820; 10-09-2008 at 01:19 PM.

10-09-2008, 12:51 PM	#18
Tony Janes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Whittier, Ca Posts: 830 Likes: 94 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: terrible race at fontana The Super Stock racer did not put the car in reverse, he broke a rear suspension part. Get the facts straight __________________ Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS

10-09-2008, 01:17 PM	#20
7820 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 201 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: terrible race at fontana Super Gas/Super Pro Opps..my bad Tony!