Grossi and the Big Block

[Bench Racer]

That 350 combo of the Fogle's has been given a good bit of horsepower in the last year or so. I think they were very close to running in the eights or may possibly have before the engine got "hit" Don Jackson

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Bench Racer

That 350 combo of the Fogle's has been given a good bit of horsepower in the last year or so. I think they were very close to running in the eights or may possibly have before the engine got "hit" Don Jackson

you are absolutely correct. Many guys have flogged the same combo to death. Now Grossi, Bo Kenny and others are exploring new options. Things should get real fast really quick. I'm just suprised that people haven't gotten creative with the combos before now

I don't think you're going to find too many people trying for the "eights" because of the 1.40 under penalty on Monday.

[Belair 7548]

Sean,

That is the problem isn't it.........the person who get's close to the eights has to be sure they can get "well into" into the eights at a specific time. If they will get close but don't quite make it the combo will be hit to the point where it might be too hard to achieve again..............kind of sounds like a one shot one time deal for a specific combo.

Getting into the eights surely will cost your combo..........

We'll see..........

[SPS]

Getting creative with new combinations isn't the problem. The problem is the inadequate factoring methods used to rate these combos.

Any competent engine designer/builder can calculate within 1-2% how much power an engine can make with the data we have.

Why then is it such a suprize how fast these combos can go? Grossi's big block, Wigle's 460, the LS1. All under-factored from the start.

Lets get into the 21st century and factor these engines correctly in the first place, then let the best man win.
....and put the poor over-factored 300 motor back where it belongs.

FJ

[Bill Harris]

Hey FJ,
Colin Wigle is running a 429 rated at 371, not the 460 rated at 300. He is the first guy to even attempt to run that engine in probably 20 years in S/S. 700+ lbs of Dearborn iron sitting in that unique Mustang. No aftermarket heads or anything like some of the combos have. I think he is doing very well for a brand new combination!

[SPS]

You miss the point.

Whether it be the first crack at a combo or not, the factor needs to be correct before the engine is run.

The source of the heads, aftermarket or OEM doesn't matter. The correct HP can be accurately calculated and then a factor assigned.

FJ

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Bill Harris

Hey FJ,
Colin Wigle is running a 429 rated at 371, not the 460 rated at 300. He is the first guy to even attempt to run that engine in probably 20 years in S/S. 700+ lbs of Dearborn iron sitting in that unique Mustang. No aftermarket heads or anything like some of the combos have. I think he is doing very well for a brand new combination!

I second that one Bill!!!

[Lynn A McCarty]

Originally Posted by Sean Cour

I don't think you're going to find too many people trying for the "eights" because of the 1.40 under penalty on Monday.

Ditto, and well said. Sean, I saw your run. You performed flawlessly. Great job keeping that car safe and saving that beautiful paint. Tell your dad I said hello.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Bench Racer

That 350 combo of the Fogle's has been given a good bit of horsepower in the last year or so. I think they were very close to running in the eights or may possibly have before the engine got "hit" Don Jackson

I saw Andy go 9.07 at Bradenton in 2007 and I am sure if it weren't for the factoring on the combo they probably would be there. Jeff Lawrence went 9.28 with his 351 powered 88 Mustang in GT/AA at Englishtown, he is player also.