Stock Eliminator NHRA accepted pistons.

[Alan Roehrich]

People are going to keep screwing around, trying to push the rules to get them changed (people are playing games with ring grooves, etc), keep pushing for "enhancements", and keep asking for parts, features, and functions that are, and have been for decades, specifically kept OUT of Stock Eliminator, and they're going to wake up and find that their class no longer exists.


When you make Stock closely resemble other classes, NHRA is going to decide to just "roll" Stock into something else.


In case you haven't noticed, people like Dave Ley, Redman, and others, who have long been our friends, who loved us, and our class, are being pushed out. NHRA doesn't want them, because they really don't want Stock, or Super Stock, for that matter. Who's next? Travis Miller?


Some of you people better stop dreaming, wake up, and realize, you're going to get what you asked for, because what you're really asking for is the end of Stock Eliminator.

[TOSTO RACING]

Agree 100 percent

Pretty soon

Bracket 1 Super Stock
Bracket 2 Stock

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

People are going to keep screwing around, trying to push the rules to get them changed (people are playing games with ring grooves, etc), keep pushing for "enhancements", and keep asking for parts, features, and functions that are, and have been for decades, specifically kept OUT of Stock Eliminator, and they're going to wake up and find that their class no longer exists.


When you make Stock closely resemble other classes, NHRA is going to decide to just "roll" Stock into something else.


In case you haven't noticed, people like Dave Ley, Redman, and others, who have long been our friends, who loved us, and our class, are being pushed out. NHRA doesn't want them, because they really don't want Stock, or Super Stock, for that matter. Who's next? Travis Miller?


Some of you people better stop dreaming, wake up, and realize, you're going to get what you asked for, because what you're really asking for is the end of Stock Eliminator.

The guy in the Black Stetson hat just said a mouthful. ….

[MoJo Risen]

Originally Posted by TOSTO RACING

Agree 100 percent

Pretty soon

Bracket 1 Super Stock
Bracket 2 Stock

Don't forget you'll be lined up in the staging lanes with 60 junior dragsters along with 60 electic Karts to pull those Go Karts..
Someone told me that kids love the smell and taste of leaded racing fuel..

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

The guy in the Black Stetson hat just said a mouthful. ?.

We grow too soon old, and too late wise.


I have had a lot of great teachers, some no longer with us. I try to speak what they taught me, they were the guys who built our classes. I'm just one of a later generation. I'm not in a position to race now. I'd like to see the classes continue, I might be able to later, or I might be able to bring in the next generation.

[Pat6868]

A valve spring rule would have stopped all of this nonsense, and we all know how that worked out.

[VE6DRW]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

People are going to keep screwing around, trying to push the rules to get them changed (people are playing games with ring grooves, etc), keep pushing for "enhancements", and keep asking for parts, features, and functions that are, and have been for decades, specifically kept OUT of Stock Eliminator, and they're going to wake up and find that their class no longer exists.


When you make Stock closely resemble other classes, NHRA is going to decide to just "roll" Stock into something else.


In case you haven't noticed, people like Dave Ley, Redman, and others, who have long been our friends, who loved us, and our class, are being pushed out. NHRA doesn't want them, because they really don't want Stock, or Super Stock, for that matter. Who's next? Travis Miller?


Some of you people better stop dreaming, wake up, and realize, you're going to get what you asked for, because what you're really asking for is the end of Stock Eliminator.

Lots to digest in this post. For perspective, we've put a "mule" engine in our Stocker this year and are racing in PRO category. We wanted to focus on improving our race operations and logistics without wearing out the Stocker engine. To our surprise, we're having just as much fun, and the competition is every bit as fierce as Stock.

Maybe you have to decide if you love drag racing or just the machinations of Stock Eliminator.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by VE6DRW

Lots to digest in this post. For perspective, we've put a "mule" engine in our Stocker this year and are racing in PRO category. We wanted to focus on improving our race operations and logistics without wearing out the Stocker engine. To our surprise, we're having just as much fun, and the competition is every bit as fierce as Stock.

Maybe you have to decide if you love drag racing or just the machinations of Stock Eliminator.

The entire point of Stock and Super Stock is to choose what you believe is a competitive combination that you like, and attempt to out work and out think your competition to be faster.


The bracket racing component of the classes came later, to "save them from possible extinction".


The hard core people in the classes still seek to choose a competitive combination that they like, and try to be at least among the fastest, if not the fastest, in their respective class.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Pat6868

A valve spring rule would have stopped all of this nonsense, and we all know how that worked out.

I have to disagree. With the advent and use of NASCAR valvetrain technology, new camshaft lobe configurations, and the frequent use of Spintron testing, the spring pressures have been reduced considerably.

Many racers are going faster with lower spring pressures.
With the proper rocker arm and pushrod stiffness, lightweight valves, and retainers, and solid tappet/roller lifters, you can run lower spring pressures and still have a stable at high RPM's.

[Alan Roehrich]

There was a valve spring rule in Stock, for decades.


Given the restrictions in the valve train in most Stock engines, and that the cam lobes haven't been redesigned (Comp sent Billy Godbold to a "contract as needed" position before he could rework them) in years, maybe decades, the advances in lobe design in NASCAR and the pro categories don't really apply to Stock. Billy was going to redesign his "fast" lobes to have his new "soft" ramps, and correct some other issues. We spoke at length. He never got the chance. I doubt Comp would pay him to do it now. The vast majority of cam companies don't even want to buy the cores anymore, and CWC doesn't want to make them.


It is interesting though, a bunch of lifter companies are making flat tappets with better materials and expensive coatings.