ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers

stefan callender · 06-01-2008, 07:46 AM

Plus NO ONE is watching the qualifying sheet lately, The guys qualifying at the top are mostly modified cars now. The guys that can go 140 plus.(MPH) Soon this will be dominated by comp cars. Something else for you guys to bitch about. No one will ever be happy. By the way, SS engine guy, who are you, and what car do you run? By the way, you wont find my name on a qualifying sheet, so dont ask.

Arnold Greene · 06-01-2008, 11:10 AM

First of all, I haven't raced NHRA in three years, so my opinion doesn't count for much. It appears to me that the burden(ahfs) in stock and superstock is being placed on the wrong group of people. Why should someone be penalized for using the rules, determined by the sanctioning body, to go fast? This is the goal in a performance class. If a combination in a particular class is deemed not competitive, then take 5 horsepower (or whatever # is deemed appropriate) off the combination. Let these folks work at that weight to get competitive just like the fast guy had to work. Don't just add weight to slow the fast guy down. That's how we ended up with 3700# Camaros and Cudas.

Like some have said, class racing may not be for everybody. It is not a 'right' to be able to run the index, much less, go fast. The way the system works now, you might as well do away with the class designations on the windows, and just put on the dial in.

Larry Munk · 06-01-2008, 11:46 AM

How about this one. Lets do like was done before. No car older than 15/20 years old in stock. All the antiques can go to super stock or the car shows. Put the comp cars where they belong. And while you're at it drop the indexes .4.

Jim Wahl · 06-01-2008, 01:15 PM

Larry,
Why don't you just say you only want GM cars in competition? Then they can dominate Stock as well as Pro Stock. Comp, and Super Stock. Won't be any need for factors then huh? Jim

Larry Munk · 06-01-2008, 02:18 PM

Actually Jim I'm a Ford guy. They still make a rear drive car.

Jim Wahl · 06-01-2008, 02:23 PM

Me thinks there was a dig there somewhere. I'm used to that kind of thinking. jim

stefan callender · 06-01-2008, 04:48 PM

Lynn, I want to know, If someone has a combination that can go 1.30 under, but other competitors with the same combination can only go 1.00-1.15 under, does that mean it needs 40 hp?? Oe one guy has a really good motor, and the others need to get to work??

Chad Rhodes · 06-01-2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Munk

Actually Jim I'm a Ford guy. They still make a rear drive car.

so does GM

06-01-2008, 07:46 AM	#1
stefan callender Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: zoo york Posts: 572 Likes: 3 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Plus NO ONE is watching the qualifying sheet lately, The guys qualifying at the top are mostly modified cars now. The guys that can go 140 plus.(MPH) Soon this will be dominated by comp cars. Something else for you guys to bitch about. No one will ever be happy. By the way, SS engine guy, who are you, and what car do you run? By the way, you wont find my name on a qualifying sheet, so dont ask.

06-01-2008, 11:10 AM	#2
Arnold Greene Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 136 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers First of all, I haven't raced NHRA in three years, so my opinion doesn't count for much. It appears to me that the burden(ahfs) in stock and superstock is being placed on the wrong group of people. Why should someone be penalized for using the rules, determined by the sanctioning body, to go fast? This is the goal in a performance class. If a combination in a particular class is deemed not competitive, then take 5 horsepower (or whatever # is deemed appropriate) off the combination. Let these folks work at that weight to get competitive just like the fast guy had to work. Don't just add weight to slow the fast guy down. That's how we ended up with 3700# Camaros and Cudas. Like some have said, class racing may not be for everybody. It is not a 'right' to be able to run the index, much less, go fast. The way the system works now, you might as well do away with the class designations on the windows, and just put on the dial in. __________________ Arnold Greene IHRA/NHRA 2420 A/S, B/S

06-01-2008, 11:46 AM	#3
Larry Munk Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 135 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers How about this one. Lets do like was done before. No car older than 15/20 years old in stock. All the antiques can go to super stock or the car shows. Put the comp cars where they belong. And while you're at it drop the indexes .4.

06-01-2008, 01:15 PM	#4
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 667 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Larry, Why don't you just say you only want GM cars in competition? Then they can dominate Stock as well as Pro Stock. Comp, and Super Stock. Won't be any need for factors then huh? Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association. Last edited by Jim Wahl; 06-01-2008 at 01:19 PM.

06-01-2008, 02:18 PM	#5
Larry Munk Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 135 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Actually Jim I'm a Ford guy. They still make a rear drive car.

06-01-2008, 02:23 PM	#6
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 667 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Me thinks there was a dig there somewhere. I'm used to that kind of thinking. jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

06-01-2008, 04:48 PM	#7
stefan callender Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: zoo york Posts: 572 Likes: 3 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: ATTN Sportsman Council Members and Racers Lynn, I want to know, If someone has a combination that can go 1.30 under, but other competitors with the same combination can only go 1.00-1.15 under, does that mean it needs 40 hp?? Oe one guy has a really good motor, and the others need to get to work??