Willing To Hold...Again

Originally Posted by 1700camaro

The above was in the Jammin Jerry thread. While I waited for a poll, it did not start. So, here it is.

This is my view on holding when I dial (I'm a bracket racer). When the subject comes up, I'm always willing to share that I always try to hold. Most racers can't understand why I share that.

I hold anywhere from .01-.06 on a consistent basis & have held more on some occasions. I primarily use the throttle to get rid of what I'm holding & very rarely use the brakes.

Below is a recent time slip where we both were holding. The right lane is an accomplished Stock Eliminator racer & a very accomplished bracket racer in his bracket car.

I had gotten rid of most of what I was holding using the throttle around the 1000'. I was planning for him to spot drop hard using his brakes. I ended up using my brakes slightly. No wiggles or smoke from neither car.

Cheater! Where do I sign up? 😂

[1700camaro]

This slip was in the 3rd round of the low roller gambler. Pretty sure this was a slow stock eliminator car. I screwed up by not holding a lot more than I did. It was a tough judgment call & could have been made easier by holding a bunch.

Was I still cheating?

[Signman]

You gotta put a number on the window you can run.

From SR1 may he rest in peace:
You have to hold your light to make it look like you are a bag o donuts

[JP1738]

Originally Posted by Signman

You gotta put a number on the window you can run.

From SR1 may he rest in peace:
You have to hold your light to make it look like you are a bag o donuts

Agreed. I essentially said the same thing in my first response on this thread, just in a different way.

[Jeff Stout]

Phx divisional I lost a radiator. By the time I found and replaced tadiator it was 1st round. With no time runs I was using what I had to determine ET. Then added .09. I was fortunate enough I was the faster car for 3 rounds and won. 4th was a faster car then me. Took the .09 slower ET off and dialed honest. Had two people come by and said weather was worse and I'm dialing faster. I was able to win 4th round. 5th I went red.was it frowned on to fender race, I'm sure it was, but I was at a disenvantage. What ever works, works.

[Cglrcng]

Originally Posted by 1700camaro

This slip was in the 3rd round of the low roller gambler. Pretty sure this was a slow stock eliminator car. I screwed up by not holding a lot more than I did. It was a tough judgment call & could have been made easier by holding a bunch.
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Lol...I think I know the guy in the other
lane...Car # 7832 EF/ S and it was a really tough week. It was so hot out I
only found the tree 1 single pass (Sadly
1st round same gambler race the night before against my own Vegas teammate
from Wednesday thru Saturday PM and
went home a day early Saturday late afternoon, as I was tired of attempting to chase shade (or risk frying my brain in
the sun another day), from sun up to sundown for days on end.

I was dialed honest based on the prior 8 AM start pass, but the air was cooler (stellar for Las Vegas, the corrected D.A.was 1,400' lower, and the track prep perfect and fast, plus a 7-8 mph tail wind. I knew my light was junk by the time I was 60' out, held the same shifts through the 1-2 shift and watched your light through the left side mirror and knew you had caught a 20 something or better, and had (with zero caffeine that morning gone comatose to what I figured was a 60 something (and I was worse but not far off actual). So, I had 1 out, down shifted to 2 from Drive and held the 2-3 shift about 800 more rpm attempting to push you out last 2 feet on the brakes. I played my hand the best I could, and while close (you played your full house a lot better than my junk Ace high hand I dealt myself). Well played on the big end, but I was nearly math defeated back 1318' ft back at the tree and knew it from the 660' mark to the end. I will say...If you held any more you would have been out the back door.

That you did not do so saved the race.

I spent the rest of that day toiling away in the heat under my dash angry with myself for being so dang late (and not grabbing a caffeine booster in the AM), but I did get my new ECU and electronics board plus my harness grommet installed that day.

A well played game I came close to pushing you out, but you were fully in control of your own destiny there. Good job...but be very careful about how much you hold against someone only running 75 mph as time goes slowly at my ET and mph.

Now, all that said, the next morning at the team race 1st round, it was like a repeat of the prior day and a guy from Firebird in PHX running a car from the Bradford School puton a hold a ton clinic against me, (no idea how many seconds he dialed up the last second at the ready line and he blasted a .012 then did the hard charge, a 1,000' drop, gliding up like a CA CHP pacing me 1' in front andwe both dipped at the line as he backed up to within an inch then was right dead on the dial with a zero! 2 days both at 8:00 AM same result...but at least there was a buyback window to go to...I finally saw red next rnd and a really bad 3rd rnd 1st and second rnd losses weekend was over!

The weather is better now, Vegas Summer is over finally! It was a dissatisfied disaster of hell on earth. Looking to finally see a 4th round soon! Please Dear Lord.

You didn't cheat but did your job at the tree, something I failed to do another repeated too often 3rd round.

I screwed up the position of the post, on my phone it would not correct, but you can get the gist. Don't hold more than you can handle...if my light is there, I will show ya the backdoor!

[1700camaro]

Originally Posted by Cglrcng

I screwed up the position of the post, on my phone it would not correct, but you can get the gist. Don't hold more than you can handle...if my light is there, I will show ya the backdoor!

I enjoy these types of differences in ET/MPH. Especially when I'm doing the chasing. I'm well versed in these types of differences & even slower. As I stated earlier, "I screwed up by not holding a lot more than I did. It was a tough judgment call & could have been made easier by holding a bunch."!

I have also raced & won in vehicles slower than yours. I've been on both sides of the fence.

These types of races, I have plenty of experience from running gambler races. They do teach you how to be disciplined with your strategy.

We'll see if you turn the tables next time, good luck to you!

1700/781L

[1700camaro]

Originally Posted by jmcarter

Might start a poll on how much people are willing to hold when they dial?that?s part of it.

I see you didn't post in this thread. Did you at least vote in the poll?

I meant to post this when the thread was a little fresher but forgot.

1700/781L

[JP1738]

I'm honest to .02, but when I race Kenny Anderson at Charlotte, I believe I was holding about .20 lol. Congrats again on your R-up

[KennyAnderson]

Originally Posted by JP1738

I'm honest to .02, but when I race Kenny Anderson at Charlotte, I believe I was holding about .20 lol. Congrats again on your R-up

That race was epic!! LOL!! When I saw you start rippin at 800' I'm like....My boy likes to party!!!