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Old 10-08-2024, 07:44 PM   #1
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

Back in 2005 we ran TS with Jerry Haas built car. We experimented with wheelie bar settings. We found that the car liked 5" height for wheelie bars, our car was pretty consistent tripping 60' clocks at 1.02 with back tires. We went to 4" on bars the car slowed to 1.04, we went to 6" on bars and car hit the bars too hard and unloaded chassis. We went back to 5" and the car went right back to 1.02 tripping with back tires.

Every car is different, you have to find that sweet spot in every car no matter how fast or slow.

Ed you guys have found the sweet spot with the Firebird. Car leaves flawless every pass, your chevelle was awesome to watch and was consistent. But you had to spend the time with it to find what it wanted, shocks & settings, travel limiters or non, rear suspension settings, etc..

Make 1 small change, keep good notes or read your data acquisition.
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Old 10-08-2024, 08:23 PM   #2
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I have often wondered about this subject and I always think about Morehead's Camaro because IMHO is the best leaving Super Stock in the sport and is Holt built.

However;

I remember being at the Summernationals at Englishtown when Alderman was driving the Wayne County Daytona and they were bad fast at the time (and that's another story) the car barely lifted the wheels but carried them for over 100' and qualified on the pole. That was one of the most impressive thing I ever seen a race car do.
Now you can say that they were cheaters and you would be right but at the same time those boys knew their stuff.

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Old 10-08-2024, 08:41 PM   #3
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Doug Battipaglia of Flo Designs who did the heads on the Wayne County car told us they never tested with other Pro Stock teams present. It was all Top Secret as per Chrysler Corp.
Doug didn't do our heads, Bill Ceralli did but Doug provided some speed secrets.
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Oh by the way Bill Ceralli is the most talented and skilled machinist ever.
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Old 10-09-2024, 12:42 AM   #5
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Frank, I have a set of the B-1TS-8 heads done by Doug.. Good heads.
What happened to him.. Lost track of him several years ago
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Frank, I have a set of the B-1TS-8 heads done by Doug.. Good heads.
What happened to him.. Lost track of him several years ago
Doug passed away February 6, 2019.
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Old 10-09-2024, 09:14 AM   #7
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Frank when did you last speak to Bill, it’s been several years since I have spoken to him. Back in the 90s and into the early 2000s Bill and I were competitors as well friendly, he joined our Saturday night dinner after racing often.
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Old 10-09-2024, 02:45 PM   #8
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Frank when did you last speak to Bill, it?s been several years since I have spoken to him. Back in the 90s and into the early 2000s Bill and I were competitors as well friendly, he joined our Saturday night dinner after racing often.
Bill and I last spoke about two years ago but my good friend and former racing partner Jimmy Lovallo spoke to Bill within the past year.
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IMHO the sixty foot ET and trap MPH are the measure of your race car.
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Old 10-09-2024, 03:12 PM   #10
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Agree, NOT wheelie height and my former Chevelle as well my Firebird are bench marks with 1.28 @ 3880 lbs. and 1.17 @ 3150 lbs. respectively and both launched off the footbrake!

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