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Old 09-07-2024, 02:56 PM   #1
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Default Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser

Hey, what's the problem? It's the same amount of teeth either way.


Yes, that was sarcasm. It hurts to see racers I respected a lot being caught with this. No doubt we might hear "but the other guys..." but that is never a defense even if it was happening.
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Old 09-07-2024, 04:11 PM   #2
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This is blatant cheating. Not gray area stuff. Building something to make it look different. Not sure how you are able to go to the next race and look at your competitors in the staging lane.
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Old 09-07-2024, 04:38 PM   #3
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I think this is covered in chapter two of the Jerry Eckman rule book. Look what cheating did for him. My only question, " How good can you feel about winning when you know you are cheating?". NHRA is not helping enforce the rules with a mickey mouse fine. Cheating racers should be barred from racing for a year. If they want the automobile manufacturers involved in these classes, then they are going to have to do a much better job of enforcing and policing the rules. If not, these classes are dead on arrival. Maybe just pump the motors for cubic inches and then let the racers do whatever they want with blowers and pulleys etc. Let's make it a real free for all. Maybe call it Factory Bar Fight.
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Old 09-07-2024, 06:36 PM   #4
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Soo...
Was this the same infraction for all of the above mentioned cars?
Seems a lot of people making same "mistake"...
Any common denominators?

Asking for a friend...
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Old 09-07-2024, 07:42 PM   #5
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Alex Laughlin has a post regarding that from Geoff Turk on Facebook. I tried to post it here, it's too long. This thread answers the "why is he posting this" thoughts.
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Old 09-07-2024, 08:41 PM   #6
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Alex Laughlin has a post regarding that from Geoff Turk on Facebook. I tried to post it here, it's too long. This thread answers the "why is he posting this" thoughts.
I read it here, it's the 8th post down.
https://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar...t-indy.569029/
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Old 09-07-2024, 09:34 PM   #7
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Why was one participant disqualified, with loss of all points and a fine, while the others were allowed to make corrections and continue racing, were fined, but only lost 100 points?
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Old 09-08-2024, 12:21 PM   #8
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Why was one participant disqualified, with loss of all points and a fine, while the others were allowed to make corrections and continue racing, were fined, but only lost 100 points?
That is a very good question.

From what the Turks said the pulley had the right number of teeth but was a larger diameter. A pulley that they had fabricated. They said it also had a cover on it to make it harder to see.

No one has been able to tell me if the infraction was caught before racing, during or after.

It would seem like NHRA needs to modify the rules to set a diameter as well as a tooth count.

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Old 09-11-2024, 05:14 PM   #9
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Why was one participant disqualified, with loss of all points and a fine, while the others were allowed to make corrections and continue racing, were fined, but only lost 100 points?

I was wondering the same thing. Could it be because he had a different engine builder than the other cheaters?
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Old 09-08-2024, 12:20 PM   #10
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Same teeth! Yes.
A few years ago when I was Tech director for our Local college go cart race I ran into the similar alterations to the drive sprockets to pick up the gear ratio.
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