A Funny thing has happened to EV’s

Originally Posted by Randy Wells

Ok let's convert horse power to kilowatts, 100 HP is equal to about 75 Kilowatts, 1 million kilowatts is a giga watt, your average cole burner is in the 1 to 2 giga watt range, your average wind turbin is 2.5 mega watt. Do the math if you take all the hydrocarbon vehicles and converted them to electric our grid would crash, it will take trillions of dollars to up grade our grid and power capacity to handle it, if we can even get this new lazy generation to even build it. There is 15 drilling rigs sitting idol in the Bakken because they can't get workers. It is all a money making scam.
The US uses 1300 Gigawatts (at any given time,what the grid can handle) of power, if every one drove an electric it would take 50,000 Gigs of power at 200 million vehicles not counting farm implements a d small engines, probably more a day on the roads, with and average of 200 HP, probably more . I am sure there a lot more smarter people on here then me, do the math. We haven't figured out perpetual motion yet, it takes power to make power.
Randy Wells
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Exactly!
When they plug in one too many EV’s ( poof) then maybe they will see the error… Maybe…but I doubt it…
This grid will never handle it!

Originally Posted by Eddies66

A little something in my backyard: Salton Sea has the potential to produce an estimated 375 million lithium batteries for electric vehicles — more than the total number of vehicles currently on U.S. roads, according to the analysis commissioned by the Department of Energy.

It’s ok for CA to mine lithium but not oil? I’m sure anything Ca is involved in will be in shambles quickly!
Watch them take over that land and hose owners there!

[jmcarter]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

Was just about ready to pull the trigger on a Volvo XC40 EV twin. 404 hp. The range was short and the interior only came in black. So we will wait see next model year and lease it for three years so we don’t behind the tech curve as it will improve in three years.

Guess I'll "come out of the closet" and say I bought an EV(VW ID.4) 2 1/2 years ago and while there isn't a good business case for most in our instance it's worked well. In our area most electricity is nuclear sourced and until recently has been around .11/KWH (on average we use 3.5 KW per mile). 99% of our travel in that vehicle has been less than 50 miles from home so it easily charges overnight so I don't have to contend with a woefully inadequate charging infrastructure. Because of the weight it rides very well and with dual motors and AWD it handles amazingly well. As Eddie plans, I leased because of the tech curve deal even though leasing is typically a bad financial way to get into a vehicle.

There are a lot of valid counterpoints to buying an EV and the government's push of EV's has been way overdone but it's worked for us. One of my other drivers is a Maverick Hybrid which I really like and plan on replacing the EV with a plug-in hybrid. I have a six speed German car for 'grins' and I'm considering the EV my race car "carbon offset". Flame away...

[Mike Gray]

Here in SoCal the average is $.31kwh with complicated formulas of peak hours, off hours, daily allowances etc. You can even get a separate meter just for EV charging with its own rates. Now California wants to surcharge your electric bill based on how much income you make not on how much electricity you use!
They claim it goes after the wealthy to pay more but the first surcharge level starts at $28k per year and the top level only goes up to about $180k. It’s just a disguised tax hike on the lower and middle class. Typical from liberal democrats.
I’m sure Eddies66 has a nice pension so that should only cost him about $50-$70 a month more for the same electricity he uses now if it goes into effect this July.