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Old 02-07-2024, 10:17 AM   #1
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some of you guys have an issue with the truth and the facts. You talk about stock eliminator as if it's the pinnacle of drag racing. It is NOT, the pinnacle of drag racing doesn't race for $1,500/$1,800 and a trophy no one but class racers care about while held captive for nearly a week, then wait by the mailbox for a few $100/$300 checks. More to my point, the cars are not "stock". further you bitch and moan about the rules you don't like while turning a blind eye to the rampant cheating that has been going on for decades. Last like Frank, you think you have some superior knowledge and skill set because you are prepared to pull a head and/or a piston/rod.

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Old 02-07-2024, 11:00 AM   #2
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some of you guys have an issue with the truth and the facts. You talk about stock eliminator as if it's the pinnacle of drag racing. It is NOT, the pinnacle of drag racing doesn't race for $1,500/$1,800 and a trophy no one but class racers care about. More to my point, the cars are not "stock". further you bitch and moan about the rules you don't like while turning a blind eye to the rampant cheating that has been going on for decades. Last like Frank, you think you have some superior knowledge and skill set because you are prepared to pull a head and/or a piston/rod.

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Old 02-07-2024, 11:09 AM   #3
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What is Truth and Fact? but what the individual can accept as such. What you project is yours only....
Oh come on Frank! This may be the definition of "truth" but "fact" will eventually step up and hit you right square in the face.;-)
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Not sure if I should comment or not. Almost stopped reading when the childish taunts came out.

As for being entry level, well I'm in the process of building my first stocker after bracket racing all my life, it is not cheap or easy. Entry level though is only a comparison to other NHRA classes. So the real question is, what is the cheapest class to go NHRA racing?
Stock is NOT it.
I say this because it would of been easier/cheaper to throw a 460/c6 in my fox body and go 10.90 racing. Already have lots of stuff lying around. Heck, throw a ls in it for even cheaper! I love bracket racing and consider stock, the pinnacle (to me). I have zero interest in top fool or other heads up wallet races. Yes I have "junk" and will struggle to hit the index and I'm ok with that.

So, in my opinion, stock is not an "entry level" class, however, the lower classes are "entry level to stock"
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Old 02-07-2024, 02:49 PM   #5
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So, in my opinion, stock is not an "entry level" class, however, the lower classes are "entry level to stock"
How about we expound on this, which is ,in fact, the subject of this thread.
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How about we expound on this, which is ,in fact, the subject of this thread.
That's essentially what I said a bit ago. I agree with the statement.
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Old 02-07-2024, 05:08 PM   #7
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Super street is the beginner class as far as NHRA divisional or national events are concerned. Pretty much any super pro bracket car can compete in super street. There is very few rules. Any engine in any bodied car is legal. You have to meet the safety requirements but you also need to meet them at the bracket races too. You have to meet the minimum weight which I think is around 2800 lbs. Biggest difference in S/ST and bracket is the pro tree. Your car has to leave hard enough to cut the light. Then you have to run the number. Better be .010 and dead on to beat the hitters in that class. A good back half car with a fairly good small block could be a contender with a good driver.
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Old 02-07-2024, 04:30 PM   #8
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If you re-read my first few posts of the U/SA thread, this essentially what this is
about. See post # 30
But what I have learned by following that thread is that if you want to be top dog in any class you need to spend the time and the money to achieve that, even thought it's the lowest V8 class in Stock eliminator. There are some serious competitors in U/SA.
Being a dedicated A/SA racer for some time I invested significant resources into my program, by alas it's the same for every class. A through Z
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Old 02-07-2024, 04:34 PM   #9
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What would be the difference in cost of a Brad Van Lant '71 340 or a '65 273? Plus a ProTrans 904?

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Old 02-07-2024, 12:03 PM   #10
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Let's not forget you telling me in person you would never ever race NHRA but when your kid saw his buddy having fun you lowered yourself.... The signman knows!!! LOL!!!
Really? Considering you and I haven't had an in person conversation in at least 10 years,, so your claim is just that. I and I alone decided we would try super comp in 2017 and with the help of my friends Scotty Albrecht and Shawn Fricke, we've done very well!

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