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Old 12-26-2023, 01:39 PM   #1
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I'd be OK with that. Can we combine the Sticks and Automatics at the same time?



Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of one pound weight breaks.
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Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of one pound weight breaks.
Is it one pound with Sticks and Autos combined? From I/S down there's the same or less participation than in the FWD classes.
Based on indexes, a FWD combo would need between a 3 and 4 pound weight break.
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Is it one pound with Sticks and Autos combined? From I/S down there's the same or less participation than in the FWD classes.
Based on indexes, a FWD combo would need between a 3 and 4 pound weight break.

Actually, I think one pound weight breaks with FWD rolled into appropriate classes is a big enough step to start with. That's a substantial reduction in the number of classes, and should result in plenty of heads up runs on its own.
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Actually, I think one pound weight breaks with FWD rolled into appropriate classes is a big enough step to start with. That's a substantial reduction in the number of classes, and should result in plenty of heads up runs on its own.
I absolutely agree but at the same time it would be much less controversial to combine Sticks and Autos at one pound (different HP factors) than it would be to combine FWDs because the FWDs would need a serious HP/weight factor break. Although I wouldn't mind seeing it. It sure would "tighten" things up and stop a lot of the sandbagging.
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I absolutely agree but at the same time it would be much less controversial to combine Sticks and Autos at one pound (different HP factors) than it would be to combine FWDs because the FWDs would need a serious HP/weight factor break. Although I wouldn't mind seeing it. It sure would "tighten" things up and stop a lot of the sandbagging.



Adjusting the weight breaks to put FWD cars in regular classes, and putting all classes on a one pound weight break, will accomplish that, without adding the extra change. It also affects every combination in the class, without excluding some and including others. Everyone gets a weight break change. And new competitors. It also achieves at least as great a reduction in classes, and as great an increase in heads up races.
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Adjusting the weight breaks to put FWD cars in regular classes, and putting all classes on a one pound weight break, will accomplish that, without adding the extra change. It also affects every combination in the class, without excluding some and including others. Everyone gets a weight break change. And new competitors. It also achieves at least as great a reduction in classes, and as great an increase in heads up races.
I'm not understanding why your reluctance to combine Sticks and Autos. I also personally think that the FS cars should be combined too.
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I'm not understanding why your reluctance to combine Sticks and Autos. I also personally think that the FS cars should be combined too.
Which index would you use? The stick or auto? As far as FS, sticks and autos are already combined, no?
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I'm not understanding why your reluctance to combine Sticks and Autos. I also personally think that the FS cars should be combined too.

I'm not understanding your obsession with it.


The one pound weight breaks and rolling the FWD cars into the appropriate classes creates the smaller number of classes, and the other desired results.



And, honestly, the pure factory race cars should be in their own completely separate classes.
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