The Present Points system to win the World Championship need

[Don Kennedy]

Originally Posted by Bill Grubbs

So.....Someone who has a perfect season, with the exception of a "Special Race", can loose to a person...who quite possibly never won a race the entire year...and was not even a division winner.

Yah.....No!!!

The division champion and the runner up can go to the Shoot out This solves the high costs of having to travel to over 14 races We are sportsman not travling pros is best to know in My opinion

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

We are sportsman not travling pros is best to know in My opinion

Oh really! When the Ivory Tower guys look out at the Sportsmen pits today and see all of those high-end motor coaches I would think that you're going to have a pretty hard time convincing them of that!

[Tex013]

we have a new system here in Oz this season . A western and eastern conference , you can run as much as you want with a 300 point cap plus travel bonus (only given at 1 or 2 tracks)points stay in conference .You can run both conferences if you choose . Then an invitational to national grand final for national #1 etc . This is based off your best 4 results racing in any conference but you must do 1 away(interstate) race , you all go in on zero points so winner is #1.
This does help to lower travel costs , but only to a degree as we have long hauls between tracks , minimum 10hours to closest away track for me . I think racers from Western Oz have to travel 2 -2 1/2 days to next track .
And you would cry if you saw the $ on offer , I doubt you would open your trailers.

Tex

[Bryan Worner]

So who would pay for the travel to this extra race? Also, speaking of a pathetic payout, how about those huge Division championship purses!!! A whopping $3000 to win SS! I won the same amount in 2007! Back then I thought that was a small payout for winning a championship! Maybe increase those to put some emphasis back on LODRS races!

[L Peterson6261]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

So who would pay for the travel to this extra race? Also, speaking of a pathetic payout, how about those huge Division championship purses!!! A whopping $3000 to win SS! I won the same amount in 2007! Back then I thought that was a small payout for winning a championship! Maybe increase those to put some emphasis back on LODRS races!

I'm sure you young guys don't know or remember but we won more money back it the 70s when gas was around $0.50 a gallon and the cost of going to a race wasn't killing anyone. And yes... companies who posted and provided us with decals had to pay up or one call to NHRA and they would go after them to pay up

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by L Peterson6261

I'm sure you young guys don't know or remember but we won more money back it the 70s when gas was around $0.50 a gallon and the cost of going to a race wasn't killing anyone. And yes... companies who posted and provided us with decals had to pay up or one call to NHRA and they would go after them to pay up

Absolute fact.




And this is one of the two biggest problems, purse wise. Both are directly related to poor performance on the part of NHRA.


You know, people love to point out that independent promoters, such as Butner, Biondo, Bohannon, Connelly, etc., seem to be able to put on big money races, but no one shows, because there's no little gold man.


If those independent promoters can create big money races, why can't NHRA go get that same money, and put it on the line when there is little gold man up for grabs? The money is OBVIOUSLY out there.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

why can't NHRA go get that same money

Who's to say they're not? Who in any of the Sportsmen eliminators (or pros for that matter) is in a position to know just what the "Ivory Tower Boys" are up to? There is no oversight. They can generate income where ever they want and spend it (or not) where ever it does them the most good. And it's not on us. We just continue to show up, happy to have a place to race.
When we (the NHRA Members) gave away our proxy ('81,'82?) we gave away our souls. We didn't even sell them.

[BKSG1198]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Oh really! When the Ivory Tower guys look out at the Sportsmen pits today and see all of those high-end motor coaches I would think that you're going to have a pretty hard time convincing them of that!

And a DD once told me that, he told me "look out into the pits, do you really think these guys are running for the money". I think it has been proven over time between separate Big $$$ sportsman type events (Mike Beard, Lee & Brian, Ken & Tim, Tyler & Myself) it's all about the gold man at the end of the weekend for a lot of people.