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Old 11-28-2023, 10:41 PM   #1
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Changing the index for the Super categories would help in a number of ways. The spectators hate the stop and go cars, They don't like watching it.
They vacate the stands when they are on the track. Reducing their index will also speed up the program.
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Old 11-29-2023, 07:59 AM   #2
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the spectators at a National event hate every class, every car except the Nitro Cars! They don't watch any of them. They vacate the stands when anything is on the track but the Nitro cars.
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Old 11-29-2023, 10:38 AM   #3
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the spectators at a National event hate every class, every car except the Nitro Cars! They don't watch any of them. They vacate the stands when anything is on the track but the Nitro cars.
I have been going to the Brainerd National every year since 2007 and this couldn't be more true. People will not even stick around for Pro Stock anymore...
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Old 11-29-2023, 10:42 AM   #4
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One of the few exceptions is for S/SS day at Indy, when the 50 or so real car fans come out.
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the spectators at a National event hate every class, every car except the Nitro Cars! They don't watch any of them. They vacate the stands when anything is on the track but the Nitro cars.
thats when i leave stands
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Old 12-02-2023, 08:43 AM   #6
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this isn't about you/us, we are sportsman/class racers not spectators, that wouldn't be there if not for competing at the event.

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Old 12-02-2023, 10:12 AM   #7
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My “opinion” is that, if I built a 190mph 9.90 car so I can always be the chaser… if you lower the index I’ll still run 190 but at 8.80. Or, I’ll build a motor to run 200@8.90…. And zero has changed. Still a 2 second delay as I ensure I am the fastest and always chase.
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Old 12-02-2023, 11:25 AM   #8
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My opinion is that it's ridiculous that .90 cars today, specially S/C and S/G are still indexed as they were over 3 decades ago and ET slower than some stockers and all the FSS cars.
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Old 12-02-2023, 12:05 PM   #9
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Seems to me that around the last half of the 1970's, Sacramento Raceway used to have an indexed class which featured big inch big block Chevys, four speeds, Dana 60 rear ends and all and most of the hitters were 55-57 Chevys and they ran on a 9.50 index. Giant wheel stands, four speeds, excitement, the crowds loved it. It was called Pro Gas. After a few seasons and some car magazine coverage, Orange County Raceway tried it and it took off pretty well down there. Then, NHRA decided to feature it to see what the crowd would say about it and it got called Super Gas as we still know it today. That was a door car class that the fans loved. It was featured by NHRA at the 1980 Winternationals and it was well received. It seems, however, that the original crowd pleasing concept was lost pretty quickly. Something that was rather exciting like that was liked then, who is to say an exciting and competitive category like that might not be appealing now?
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Old 12-02-2023, 12:08 PM   #10
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My “opinion” is that, if I built a 190mph 9.90 car so I can always be the chaser… if you lower the index I’ll still run 190 but at 8.80. Or, I’ll build a motor to run 200@8.90…. And zero has changed. Still a 2 second delay as I ensure I am the fastest and always chase.

I don't race the 90 classes. But sometime ago I did some simulations for someone that does. As you say MPH. He didn't want to run any quicker ET but wanted to pickup another 10 MPH on the top end.


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