Season averages

[Billy Nees]

Wow! Two posts in a row written by two Racers that I have a great deal of respect for (believe-it-or-not!) coming at this from two completely different sides of the discussion/argument!

Barry knows that he has a great combo which has been helped by heads and an intake/carb that, although "legal replacements" are far better than what came on the combo. I can't blame him for picking such a combo to spend his money on and (to his credit) Barry isn't afraid to spend his money in the right places. Now Barry could have built a '70 402/350/330 or a '71 402/300/315 and I doubt very much that he would be wanting the indexes moved .3. Barry knowingly picked the "better" combo and ran with it knowing that he could (more-than-likely) go fast enough to hurt himself.

Doug knows that his combo ain't the best, a '70 350/300/286 but it's what he could afford to "scrounge" together while working part time and going to college. Now Doug could have built a '70 350/250/224 with the carb that never came on a car that NHRA (somehow) made available and I'm pretty sure that he would be wanting the indexes moved .3.

What I'm hoping to make clear here is that NHRA has to come up with a way to expedite(?) satisfying this crusty old poop and this young punk without losing them while at the same time encouraging other Racers to come in or come back to the fold.
They need to react to what they've done to "enhanced" combos and "no-longer- competitive" (yeah, we need Oldsmobiles and Ramblers Too!) combos far quicker and in a "commonsense" way. Even if it means having to talk to Real Racers, not just their buddies.

OBTW NHRA, I'm always available and willing to discuss combos but I've been known to be a bit harsh at times. ;-)

[B Parker]

Billy just to remind you again ( for about the fourth time) I bought my car 4 years ago as an already running Stocker with that engine combo in it for 20 grand. It may not be your cup of tea but for me it was too cheap to pass up. And I had waited long enough at my local junk yards for you to show up and help me find my future Stocker.

Sorry Billy but your idea of what Stockers are left the building long ago and it's not coming back. I had nothing to do with it but I accept it and you should too. Or get professional help.

As you well know it's not just about spending money. I've had to many racers who don't work on their cars nor are willing to spend any money on them tell me their combo aren't very good!! One thing I've learned in 45 years of doing this is you can't make your car faster letting it sit in your trailer from race to race.

I think it's great that Doug was able to build a car on a budget while going to school. But just because he isn't able to run 1.20 under doesn't mean his combo is not able to. It's an easy 1.20 under car with time and money. Not saying he has to spend the money. All you have to do is be able to run the index to win.

I don't think changing the index's is the real problem. The AHFS needs to change so when you do go fast say up until about 1.30 the HP hit is not combo wrecking. The HP percentage for under the index's needs to change.
The .85 under average is a joke to get hit HP. If you didn't think so before Indy should have been eye opening. Bump it to at least 1 under and drop the percentage of HP hits you get all the way up to 1.30 under. The 1970 402 Nova's had to add 130 lbs in weight with just one hit 1.21 under in really good air. For an example. It's now rated 15HP more than the 1970 Camaro's.

You might get some of us racers who still care about the ET performance to put the hammer down. BP






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[Billy Nees]

Barry, as usual you've missed my point completely.

[Mark Lewis]

Who you calling crusty old poop?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Mark Lewis

Who you calling crusty old poop?

Well, I guess if the shoe fits..............;-)

[GTS340]

I wonder when the naughty or nice list will arrive?

Paul