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Old 09-11-2023, 02:28 PM   #1
Chuck Beuthel
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Does anyone know where to find a list of the minimum legal weights for approved crankshafts for stock eliminator?
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Old 09-11-2023, 04:22 PM   #2
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Chuck, I would check with the gentleman(#@$%&) that protested you.
It would seem he has a handle on crankshaft weights. And to add to
Gump's list, the protester must be identified.

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Old 09-11-2023, 04:45 PM   #3
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Why as the protester should you have to tear down?
They are paying for the info
And how is it possible to protest someone without being on the property
Don’t you have to put up the $ and complaint?
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Old 09-11-2023, 08:49 PM   #4
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Why as the protester should you have to tear down?
They are paying for the info
And how is it possible to protest someone without being on the property
Don’t you have to put up the $ and complaint?
It is my opinion that, if you feel that an opponent has something illegal going on, you should also prove that you don't.

If both have to teardown, it will stop someone raiding their piggy bank just to mess with another competitor.

Does anyone know a good automotive repair shop that will pull a crank and put everything back for $750.00?
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Old 09-11-2023, 09:35 PM   #5
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Do you have to be in the same individual class as the car you protest? In Beuthel's case F/SA or just be in stock eliminator?
Seems like you should be in the same class otherwise anyone there with 750.00 to blow could do it just to be a jerk.
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Old 09-11-2023, 10:07 PM   #6
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Do you have to be in the same individual class as the car you protest? In Beuthel's case F/SA or just be in stock eliminator?
Seems like you should be in the same class otherwise anyone there with 750.00 to blow could do it just to be a jerk.
In my case I knew who protested me and it was just to be a jerk and on top of that he did not have to put up any money.
The Division Director told me it was at his discretion to require inspection and that was what he did.
I believe any protestor should be named and money put up.
If it turns out everything was legal the protestor should be named when the legal person is named as being legal.
Just my experience.
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Old 09-12-2023, 07:31 AM   #7
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Why as the protester should you have to tear down?
They are paying for the info
And how is it possible to protest someone without being on the property
Don’t you have to put up the $ and complaint?
I have been shouting for several years now that if one files a protest, fees need to be paid at the time of the filing.. there also needs to be a document created, and filled out by the protester, stating the supposed infractions.. this form should include the protester's name, and NHRA membership number should be required.. as well as proof that the required fees have been paid.. ANNDDDDD, no protests can be filed via cellphone.. if you at there, YOU AIN'T!!.. making a call, then putting fees on a credit card, is bogus.. IN REAL LIFE, everyone has the right to face their accuser..

Didn't someone pull this stunt during the Gators, complaining about someone's firewall while not even being in the same State??.. is this the same guy??.. asking for a friend..

I'm not sure about the protester being torn down, just for being the protester, BUT, I'm sure there just might be that move as retaliation.. JUST SAYIN'..
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Old 09-12-2023, 10:48 AM   #8
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We got protested at Indy a few years ago after SS class eliminations were complete and had to report to the barn. All went fine and the trophy stayed in our hands. The NHRA rule book states that a formal protest does need to be prior to any eliminations. It is Indy though. I do agree that any form of protest should never be anonymous.
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Old 09-12-2023, 12:07 PM   #9
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Not the same classes, but retribution is not new.

One year at Indy, one Pro Stock team protested another. My memory is hazy enough to not remember what was being protested but have a strong impression it involved Yates and Morgan.

I think Yates was the original, and then Morgan immediately protested him. He was not hiding anything, and was telling anyone who would listen that if his guys were going to be up all night, so was the other team. He picked an area at random to have checked.

Both cars passed and I never saw this again. I don't know if there were any behind the scenes action by Glendora, but for whatever reason it was a one time deal.


That aside, there have some very good suggstions already made and I agree with all of them. The protest procedure is needed and important, but first, the present rules should be followed; and second, an obvious attempt to affect another team's ability to race should not be taken lightly and those who do it for spite should face consequences.

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Old 09-12-2023, 01:10 PM   #10
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I question why anything else was checked. The protester protested the crank. Everything else should not have been checked.
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