Bump Spot for Stock and Super Stock Without AHFS At Indy

[Jeff Niceswanger]

I don't know how many noticed, but at the Sportnationals in Hebron this year, whoever they had in staging did staging the 'old' way. In order of alphabet. It wasn't perfect, but it was truly coordinated. I hadn't seen that since Redman left.

[Pistol Pete]

Originally Posted by Chris1529

That is a shame that NHRA could not even get the correct alternates chosen for the biggest race of the year.
A simple solution is for the drivers who qualified 129 and down to write their qualifying # on windshield with shoe polish and then have NHRA line them up in number order in a designated area. Then as an alternate is needed, they pull the driver out in the correct order.

Or better yet, you need to tell NHRA by 30 min prior to the scheduled start time of the first round if you are making the call. If you aren't going to make it, NHRA can go ahead and start getting alternates ready.

If NHRA does not have race control folks who can manage this, they need to find someone who can.

Same exact thing I suggested on Bobby Fazio’s podcast last night.
Great minds think alike.!!!

[Chris1529]

I missed the podcast.

I think one year at Norwalk or Rockingham, or maybe one of the tracks with smaller staging lanes when running IHRA in the 2000's, we had to put our qualifying number/position (circled) on the windshield too before pairing started. This was first round only.

[4406mopar]

Originally Posted by Chris1529

Or better yet, you need to tell NHRA by 30 min prior to the scheduled start time of the first round if you are making the call. If you aren't going to make it, NHRA can go ahead and start getting alternates ready.

If NHRA does not have race control folks who can manage this, they need to find someone who can.

That 30 minutes before start time is not going to work. Have you ever needed to fix you car before a round? And how long does it take to run 64 pairs of cars? That’s a lot of time to get something fixed and get to staging before the first round is over. Your idea cuts off 1.5 to 2 hours of time to fix a car and make first round

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

I just emailed DRC's rick@fastnews.net and requested that he post the first round of Stock Eliminator.

In case anyone missed it...

https://www.nhra.com/results/2023/nh...-eliminator/e1

[Chris1529]

Originally Posted by 4406mopar

That 30 minutes before start time is not going to work. Have you ever needed to fix you car before a round? And how long does it take to run 64 pairs of cars? That’s a lot of time to get something fixed and get to staging before the first round is over. Your idea cuts of 1.5 to 2 hours of time to fix a car.

If you know that first round is 8:00 am the next morning, you should know whether you are going to make the call by 7:30 am.

If you make a qualifying pass the same day before the first round and have to fix something, that is one thing, but if you have all evening and the night before to get ready, I can't see that 30 min of notification to race control is not feasible.
If you are one of the designated pair, you would not have the extra time anyway.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

In case anyone missed it...

https://www.nhra.com/results/2023/nh...-eliminator/e1

Yac….many ,including me are looking for the DRC version so we can find out which alternate ran who AND why the very last alternate got to race instead of higher qualified cars …

[Frank Castros]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

In case anyone missed it...

https://www.nhra.com/results/2023/nh...-eliminator/e1

I was looking for the DRC version because it displays the qualifying position and the NHRA Live Results do not.

[djm670]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

I was looking for the DRC version because it displays the qualifying position and the NHRA Live Results do not.

And as I recall, I don't think either versions were 100% correct. If you are going to count first round of stock class as qualifying, then you should be able to put out a list, which can be amended if there is an issue in teardown shortly there after. Or if you can't maybe you shouldn't run the eliminator the following day. It is amazing everyone gets their vehicle back together in 7 to 10 hours after teardown. You would think you could put out an up to-date qualifying sheet in the same amount of time.

And while I am ranting, who the h... protests a racer who is at his first US Nationals and asks to have them look at his crankshaft. Knowing full well that it will require the engine to be pulled from the car and completely disassembled with very little time to get it put back together for a next day 8 am first round of stock eliminator. That person is one SOB! And he had to lodge the complaint on Wednesday to make it happen on Thursday. NHRA Tech should have realized what it was for and put the kabosh on it. Harassments plain and simple. I don't race any more, just follow it and it still burns my fanny that this was allowed to happen. My motto was never complain, never explain; do unto others as they do to you. Those that deserve respect get respect, those that don't ... well the they don't get any!

When Steve Gibbs retired, running of the races has been a bit loose and seems like they don't have the knowledgeable people or enough of them to do the job right any longer!

Don McElroy

Proud to say Donnie Beeler is a friend and was definitely happy to see his victory and that he is a US Nationals Champion! Way to go Donnie and Goldie!

[Randy Wells]

Originally Posted by djm670

And as I recall, I don't think either versions were 100% correct. If you are going to count first round of stock class as qualifying, then you should be able to put out a list, which can be amended if there is an issue in teardown shortly there after. Or if you can't maybe you shouldn't run the eliminator the following day. It is amazing everyone gets their vehicle back together in 7 to 10 hours after teardown. You would think you could put out an up to-date qualifying sheet in the same amount of time.

And while I am ranting, who the h... protests a racer who is at his first US Nationals and asks to have them look at his crankshaft. Knowing full well that it will require the engine to be pulled from the car and completely disassembled with very little time to get it put back together for a next day 8 am first round of stock eliminator. That person is one SOB! And he had to lodge the complaint on Wednesday to make it happen on Thursday. NHRA Tech should have realized what it was for and put the kabosh on it. Harassments plain and simple. I don't race any more, just follow it and it still burns my fanny that this was allowed to happen. My motto was never complain, never explain; do unto others as they do to you. Those that deserve respect get respect, those that don't ... well the they don't get any!

When Steve Gibbs retired, running of the races has been a bit loose and seems like they don't have the knowledgeable people or enough of them to do the job right any longer!

Don McElroy

Proud to say Donnie Beeler is a friend and was definitely happy to see his victory and that he is a US Nationals Champion! Way to go Donnie and Goldie!

Never been to Indy and probably never will, but if I went and an anonymous person protested me and wanted to see my crank it would be the end of my class racing, now if he had the B*** to give his name I would have no problem tearing down. We call them cowards where I come from. I guess it is just the way I am wired.

Randy Wells
I/S 5628