Bump Spot for Stock and Super Stock Without AHFS At Indy

Casey Miles · 09-02-2023, 07:13 AM

James did nothging wrong, he did exactly what most racers would've done. He got pointed at and was told to load up. Now it was the mistake of the pairing personel not being prepared, they didn't have a qualifying sheet, just ladder sheets. I and a whole lot of other racers where standing next tp the nhra people. They didn't seem to have a clue without the proper tools in hand. In other words, it was a cluster f...!

Pistol Pete · 09-02-2023, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles

James did nothging wrong, he did exactly what most racers would've done. He got pointed at and was told to load up. Now it was the mistake of the pairing personel not being prepared, they didn't have a qualifying sheet, just ladder sheets. I and a whole lot of other racers where standing next tp the nhra people. They didn't seem to have a clue without the proper tools in hand. In other words, it was a cluster f...!

Now that is 100% F____ up !!!
Casey, couldn’t you have told nhra guys you were higher on the Q list ??

Casey Miles · 09-03-2023, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pistol Pete

Now that is 100% F____ up !!!
Casey, couldn’t you have told nhra guys you were higher on the Q list ??

NHRA personnel didn't have a qualifying sheet and there wasn't one posted on DRC, so standing up in the lanes ready with a dial in on my car didn't mean anything to the NHRA people. They were clueless, on the middle of the ladder sheet should have been a list of alternates, but that is asking too much form NHRA.

Casey Miles
Stock

442OLDS · 09-04-2023, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles

NHRA personnel didn't have a qualifying sheet and there wasn't one posted on DRC, so standing up in the lanes ready with a dial in on my car didn't mean anything to the NHRA people. They were clueless, on the middle of the ladder sheet should have been a list of alternates, but that is asking too much form NHRA.

Casey Miles
Stock

This kind of reminds me of the National event entry process. The St Louis National event filled at 8 grading points.They have no standby or alternate list and anybody with one grading point could get in if a spot opens up and they are the first to see it.

You seem like you are taking it pretty well.I would really be upset if I was there and the very last car in the field got to race before me.

And it seems to me that this scenario has happened at Indy in the past with no effort to correct the situation and make it right.

Casey Miles · 09-04-2023, 09:43 AM

You seem like you are taking it pretty well.I would really be upset if I was there and the very last car in the field got to race before me.

Nothing could really upset me, my Camaro went it's best ET and mph ever and I won a $10k tool box at the racers appreciation dinner. It was a good Indy for me except for not getting into the field.
Casey Miles

442OLDS · 09-04-2023, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles

Nothing could really upset me, my Camaro went it's best ET and mph ever and I won a $10k tool box at the racers appreciation dinner. It was a good Indy for me except for not getting into the field.
Casey Miles

Wow,congratulations.

I bet that 10k toolbox is double what you could have won by winning the race.

Dyno · 09-04-2023, 11:40 AM

In the past with my SS/AH car, I would be outside the top 128. When SS was called I would go up and they would have the qualifying sheet and I would “check in” so they knew I was there. The official would then start filling in from the top of the list on down, with the slowest qualifier getting the first racer on up. That way if there were more spots open than racers to fill them, the higher qualifier got the bye. Seemed like a fair way to me. All it takes is a little effort and fairness to all involved.

1347 · 09-04-2023, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles

NHRA personnel didn't have a qualifying sheet and there wasn't one posted on DRC, so standing up in the lanes ready with a dial in on my car didn't mean anything to the NHRA people. They were clueless, on the middle of the ladder sheet should have been a list of alternates, but that is asking too much form NHRA.

Casey Miles
Stock

It sounds like that's something that should be brought bought to the SRAC committee.
Has there ever been a policy for alternates?

Kevin Panzino · 09-04-2023, 09:51 AM

I agree that is a shame. The only other complaint I have is how stock was treated yesterday morning in the lanes. A bunch of cars pulled to be paired in plenty of time. There was still dew on most of the cars windows. It was 07:45 ish. And one of the nhra ladies in the lanes was going ballistic to pull the cars up. I mean yelling and screaming “if you want to race pull these bleeping cars up now or we will send you home”.
I was very surprised by this. It’s not like it was 8:20 and no one moving yet. It wasn’t even 08:00 yet. I get that some folks always want to lay behind. But this was ridiculous. It wasn’t even the scheduled start time yet and dew was everywhere.

Kp

Lyn Smith · 09-04-2023, 11:38 AM

What I don't understand is why they do not have designated pairs for rounds 2 and later? My first 3 time tickets from eliminations had times of 8:01, 8:04, and 8:09! I wonder if any fans that show up on Monday wonder where all the sportsmen cars went? First time that i ever remember that they took it down to 2 cars in each sportsmen category. Big rumor for next year is that IRP is getting a big make over with the Pro pits moving to the west side, and the tower being replaced also. NHRA is spending the millions they got from the Atlanta track sale. No word and where the other classes will pit.

09-02-2023, 07:13 AM	#1
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 706 Likes: 128 Liked 508 Times in 92 Posts	Re: Bump Spot for Stock and Super Stock Without AHFS At Indy James did nothging wrong, he did exactly what most racers would've done. He got pointed at and was told to load up. Now it was the mistake of the pairing personel not being prepared, they didn't have a qualifying sheet, just ladder sheets. I and a whole lot of other racers where standing next tp the nhra people. They didn't seem to have a clue without the proper tools in hand. In other words, it was a cluster f...!

09-04-2023, 09:43 AM	#5
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 706 Likes: 128 Liked 508 Times in 92 Posts	Re: Bump Spot for Stock and Super Stock Without AHFS At Indy You seem like you are taking it pretty well.I would really be upset if I was there and the very last car in the field got to race before me. Nothing could really upset me, my Camaro went it's best ET and mph ever and I won a $10k tool box at the racers appreciation dinner. It was a good Indy for me except for not getting into the field. Casey Miles

09-04-2023, 11:40 AM	#7
Dyno Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 918 Likes: 1,140 Liked 691 Times in 205 Posts	Re: Bump Spot for Stock and Super Stock Without AHFS At Indy In the past with my SS/AH car, I would be outside the top 128. When SS was called I would go up and they would have the qualifying sheet and I would “check in” so they knew I was there. The official would then start filling in from the top of the list on down, with the slowest qualifier getting the first racer on up. That way if there were more spots open than racers to fill them, the higher qualifier got the bye. Seemed like a fair way to me. All it takes is a little effort and fairness to all involved.

09-04-2023, 09:51 AM	#9
Kevin Panzino Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 576 Likes: 298 Liked 748 Times in 137 Posts	Re: Bump Spot for Stock and Super Stock Without AHFS At Indy I agree that is a shame. The only other complaint I have is how stock was treated yesterday morning in the lanes. A bunch of cars pulled to be paired in plenty of time. There was still dew on most of the cars windows. It was 07:45 ish. And one of the nhra ladies in the lanes was going ballistic to pull the cars up. I mean yelling and screaming “if you want to race pull these bleeping cars up now or we will send you home”. I was very surprised by this. It’s not like it was 8:20 and no one moving yet. It wasn’t even 08:00 yet. I get that some folks always want to lay behind. But this was ridiculous. It wasn’t even the scheduled start time yet and dew was everywhere. Kp

09-04-2023, 11:38 AM	#10
Lyn Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pontiac,il. Posts: 1,205 Likes: 286 Liked 983 Times in 198 Posts	Re: Bump Spot for Stock and Super Stock Without AHFS At Indy What I don't understand is why they do not have designated pairs for rounds 2 and later? My first 3 time tickets from eliminations had times of 8:01, 8:04, and 8:09! I wonder if any fans that show up on Monday wonder where all the sportsmen cars went? First time that i ever remember that they took it down to 2 cars in each sportsmen category. Big rumor for next year is that IRP is getting a big make over with the Pro pits moving to the west side, and the tower being replaced also. NHRA is spending the millions they got from the Atlanta track sale. No word and where the other classes will pit.