Atco is done

[Dave Gantz]

Originally Posted by Steve1118

There are a number of class racers in the area, and he gets zippo support from any of them, although it is a first class facility.


As far as a business model, it stinks, frankly, and I can't help but notice that the tracks that are in trouble are these big time facilities, Atlanta, Houston, Atco (greater Philly, NY), because they have big bills to cover. The ones that are doing OK are the out of the way 8th mile tracks without a lot of overhead. Just an observation.

Local tracks, in general, have a (possibly) unearned reputation for not having a well prepped track on test, grudge, etc., nights. Class racers can't spend the money and time to chance a surface that may not be ultimate.


The real estate near the big cities is probably more valuable to the owners, giving an incentive to sell.

[Steve1118]

[QUOTE=Dave Gantz;683294]Local tracks, in general, have a (possibly) unearned reputation for not having a well prepped track on test, grudge, etc., nights. Class racers can't spend the money and time to chance a surface that may not be ultimate.


Oh, yes, I forgot. Class racers are much too important to race with commoners. Ler the Top Sportsman cars do that. My mistake. A friend ran the Tri State S/SS series in PA and Ohio, and it folded from lack of support. He eventually allowed NMCA NSS cars, which carried it for a while, but eventually gave it up. Worked hard it, paid a good purse, too. The last event he had at a top notch facility, it drew 2 (two) legal class cars. And, the track never charged admission to the competitors, the circuit handled all of it. Frankly, and with all due respect, I think your attitude sums up the problem.

[Dave Gantz]

[QUOTE=Steve1118;683297]

Originally Posted by Dave Gantz

Local tracks, in general, have a (possibly) unearned reputation for not having a well prepped track on test, grudge, etc., nights. Class racers can't spend the money and time to chance a surface that may not be ultimate.


Oh, yes, I forgot. Class racers are much too important to race with commoners. Ler the Top Sportsman cars do that. My mistake.

I'm sorry, Steve. I'll reply, but I can't tell if that's written with sarcasm or not.

[Steve1118]

Sarcastic, absolutely. Read your statement back to yourself, and think about it. A friend ran the Tri State S/SS series in PA and Ohio, and it folded from lack of support. He eventually allowed NMCA NSS cars, which carried it for a while, but eventually gave it up. Worked hard it, paid a good purse, too. The last event he had at a top notch facility, it drew 2 (two) legal class cars. And, the track never charged admission to the competitors, the circuit handled all of it. Frankly, and with all due respect, I think your attitude sums up a lot of the problem. A nine second A/SA is no more dependent on track prep than a 9 second S/Pro car. Everybody had better start pulling in the same direction.or track closures are going to be more numerous.

[rboyle]

There is a big difference in track prep needed for a 9 second A/SA car vs a 9 second Super Pro car. Both cars are purpose built for a specific racing function. A well prepped Stocker is built with no electronics, to be raced in a bracket style mode but with the ability to run as fast as possible on an sll out heads up when necessary. The entire car is compromising durability for that ability to be as fast as possible once in a while.
A well prepped Super Pro car is purpose built to be as consistent as possible on any track and stay cool and require as little maintenance as needed while doing so.
It’s like using a sledge hammer to drive in finishing nails and a finish nail hammer to break up concrete. Two totally different purposes and functions but both are hammers

[SGSST109E]

IAA bought it. Looks like they are going to force the auction lot down the towns throat.

[Keith 944]

Originally Posted by Steve1118

A nine second A/SA is no more dependent on track prep than a 9 second S/Pro car. Everybody had better start pulling in the same direction.or track closures are going to be more numerous.

Gotta call B/S on this. You are overlooking the fact one is on a 9” wide tire the other is unlimited! I don’t know where you race or even care but track prep over the last few years has gone to **** at most places. Maybe from cost, availability, or whatever. I was even told by an NHRA employee that the thought behind it is the cars on tv don’t have a problem. Of course they are overlooking the fact they all use some sort of traction control. That is illegal in our class racing. Anyway sorry to get off subject of original thread

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Keith 944

Of course they are overlooking the fact they all use some sort of traction control. That is illegal in our class racing.

Oh, OK.

[Ron Ortiz]

Oh, BTW, Emerald Coast Dragway in Holt, FL just sold to auctioneers.

[Dave Gantz]

Originally Posted by Steve1118

Sarcastic, absolutely. Read your statement back to yourself, and think about it. A friend ran the Tri State S/SS series in PA and Ohio, and it folded from lack of support. He eventually allowed NMCA NSS cars, which carried it for a while, but eventually gave it up. Worked hard it, paid a good purse, too. The last event he had at a top notch facility, it drew 2 (two) legal class cars. And, the track never charged admission to the competitors, the circuit handled all of it. Frankly, and with all due respect, I think your attitude sums up a lot of the problem. A nine second A/SA is no more dependent on track prep than a 9 second S/Pro car. Everybody had better start pulling in the same direction.or track closures are going to be more numerous.

Thanks for clearing that up.
I was looking at it from the stand point that a S/SS driver, if at a test n tune, needs to know that the track is good, because they are looking for hundredths as they test.
No disrespect taken. We don’t know each other one.bit, and it’s tough writing ones feelings.
My partner and I loved the association races. I’d like to think we would’ve been there if we lived in the vicinity.