Only 48 Stockers at Epping?!?

RKelliher · 06-04-2023, 02:06 PM

Adam again,I am talking about many years,not just this one. And only tracks with the room let in VIP parking. Letting people pull out without allowing others to get in is a mistake by NHRA. The VIP parking is mostly stock holders and family. NED not NHRA issue. The weather was a factor this weekend as it has been around the country. Part of racing.But when quotas are very low, drop outs make a bigger difference.

James Perrone · 06-04-2023, 04:08 PM

Please stop with they should let more entry’s in after drop outs
And don’t ask to allow retry to this postponed race
Not happening ever
WE AINT THE SHOW
The rudderless ship is sailing of to Bristol Tennessee

Jim Whitehead · 06-04-2023, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RKelliher

Adam again,I am talking about many years,not just this one. And only tracks with the room let in VIP parking. Letting people pull out without allowing others to get in is a mistake by NHRA. The VIP parking is mostly stock holders and family. NED not NHRA issue. The weather was a factor this weekend as it has been around the country. Part of racing.But when quotas are very low, drop outs make a bigger difference.

How do you let other racers in when people are deciding last minute, and the day of to pull. WEATHER was the issue. As stated tittle was 48 cars at Epping. NOT to beat the track up, and what improvements should they do. Lots of track need improvements, and last minute withdrawal is a new thing. DON’T bash it. Before we now it no tracks will survive. Support it or STOP COMPLAINING.

1347 · 06-04-2023, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Whitehead

How do you let other racers in when people are deciding last minute, and the day of to pull. WEATHER was the issue. As stated tittle was 48 cars at Epping. NOT to beat the track up, and what improvements should they do. Lots of track need improvements, and last minute withdrawal is a new thing. DON’T bash it. Before we now it no tracks will survive. Support it or STOP COMPLAINING.

Classic example of " If I ran the racetrack! " by everyone on the internet.

tstickff · 06-04-2023, 08:01 PM

Bob, I’m very surprised to hear you say just shut this race down, especially coming from someone who lived here and got to enjoy some very great races/nationals at Epping yourself. I think asking to shut this race down for good is a huge mistake. Also we should be careful what we wish for. Before we know it we won’t have any place to race. Don’t think people from NHRA don’t read this site?

Charlotte this year had the same situation before the race started, I was entered, but the forecast was terrible so I withdrew, not worth the 17 plus hour ride. I know you live very close to Charlotte now I did not see you entered at that race? They actually had a larger quota at 60 cars, and only had 53 on the final Q sheet, about the same numbers comparing to Epping.
Charlotte is a track that only operates 2 times a year, should they consider closing down that race also? I know your answer I’m just making a point that the negativity is already very fluid in this sport, let’s just be happy we have a place to race, or sit in the rain and hangout with our closest friends!

Hope all is well
Tim Stickles

rboyle · 06-04-2023, 11:56 PM

Just my opinion but being the original poster let me clarify my point.
I LOVE Epping and the National event they put on there. So in no way do I wish it relocated or cancelled.
I wish, NHRA would go to a qualified field for all class cars but ESPECIALLY if you are contesting Class eliminations at that race. So for example at Epping this year for Stock only open up the entries to say 75 but only the 55 quickest Qualify, at Maple Grove this year open up Super Stock to say 100 entries but only the Quickest 65 (i think that’s the quota there) Qualify for the race.
As far as pulling out goes after Monday regardless of the weather (barring a national disaster or 9/11 type event or pandemic) then I do NOT think NHRA should give a credit to a future race. Like my late great friend always said, if you want to racs then you have to be there. Monday elims suck but I called in sick enough Mondays in even my racing career to understand that, even a few Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
My personal race season has been in flux much of the last couple of years so maybe I’m a little more whiny. Sorry.

RKelliher · 06-05-2023, 08:07 AM

I think you are all missing to point, NHRA doesn't need to limit
the pro field as they do at NED and a low sportsman quota. plus no comp.no alcohol dragster or funny cars were not even allowed. Not a weather issue. Low top fuel and funny car show up.No pro stock or pro motorcycle were invited. these are also not weather issue. this has been a trend for years. The fans pay a lot of money for half a event. A couple of years ago NHRA didn't even bother with the nitro mall or event shirts and hats. NHRA needs to step up at NED ,a place with one of the largest fan bases in the country. So does NED.

Good to hear from you Tim,hope you and your dad are doing well.

SuperStock fan · 06-05-2023, 02:13 PM

I'm confused about the track drying at Epping because all I see is a bunch of people using leaf blowers and other people standing around like it's a state job. The money nhra charges shouldn't they have their jet track dryers out? Talk about milking a job!

06-04-2023, 02:06 PM	#1
RKelliher Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 164 Likes: 43 Liked 181 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Only 48 Stockers at Epping?!? Adam again,I am talking about many years,not just this one. And only tracks with the room let in VIP parking. Letting people pull out without allowing others to get in is a mistake by NHRA. The VIP parking is mostly stock holders and family. NED not NHRA issue. The weather was a factor this weekend as it has been around the country. Part of racing.But when quotas are very low, drop outs make a bigger difference.

06-04-2023, 04:08 PM	#2
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,673 Likes: 3,363 Liked 1,805 Times in 423 Posts	Re: Only 48 Stockers at Epping?!? Please stop with they should let more entry’s in after drop outs And don’t ask to allow retry to this postponed race Not happening ever WE AINT THE SHOW The rudderless ship is sailing of to Bristol Tennessee __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

06-04-2023, 08:01 PM	#5
tstickff Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 469 Likes: 308 Liked 561 Times in 138 Posts	Re: Only 48 Stockers at Epping?!? Bob, I’m very surprised to hear you say just shut this race down, especially coming from someone who lived here and got to enjoy some very great races/nationals at Epping yourself. I think asking to shut this race down for good is a huge mistake. Also we should be careful what we wish for. Before we know it we won’t have any place to race. Don’t think people from NHRA don’t read this site? Charlotte this year had the same situation before the race started, I was entered, but the forecast was terrible so I withdrew, not worth the 17 plus hour ride. I know you live very close to Charlotte now I did not see you entered at that race? They actually had a larger quota at 60 cars, and only had 53 on the final Q sheet, about the same numbers comparing to Epping. Charlotte is a track that only operates 2 times a year, should they consider closing down that race also? I know your answer I’m just making a point that the negativity is already very fluid in this sport, let’s just be happy we have a place to race, or sit in the rain and hangout with our closest friends! Hope all is well Tim Stickles __________________ Tim Stickles

06-04-2023, 11:56 PM	#6
rboyle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 604 Likes: 1,454 Liked 586 Times in 162 Posts	Re: Only 48 Stockers at Epping?!? Just my opinion but being the original poster let me clarify my point. I LOVE Epping and the National event they put on there. So in no way do I wish it relocated or cancelled. I wish, NHRA would go to a qualified field for all class cars but ESPECIALLY if you are contesting Class eliminations at that race. So for example at Epping this year for Stock only open up the entries to say 75 but only the 55 quickest Qualify, at Maple Grove this year open up Super Stock to say 100 entries but only the Quickest 65 (i think that’s the quota there) Qualify for the race. As far as pulling out goes after Monday regardless of the weather (barring a national disaster or 9/11 type event or pandemic) then I do NOT think NHRA should give a credit to a future race. Like my late great friend always said, if you want to racs then you have to be there. Monday elims suck but I called in sick enough Mondays in even my racing career to understand that, even a few Tuesdays and Wednesdays. My personal race season has been in flux much of the last couple of years so maybe I’m a little more whiny. Sorry.

06-05-2023, 08:07 AM	#7
RKelliher Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 164 Likes: 43 Liked 181 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Only 48 Stockers at Epping?!? I think you are all missing to point, NHRA doesn't need to limit the pro field as they do at NED and a low sportsman quota. plus no comp.no alcohol dragster or funny cars were not even allowed. Not a weather issue. Low top fuel and funny car show up.No pro stock or pro motorcycle were invited. these are also not weather issue. this has been a trend for years. The fans pay a lot of money for half a event. A couple of years ago NHRA didn't even bother with the nitro mall or event shirts and hats. NHRA needs to step up at NED ,a place with one of the largest fan bases in the country. So does NED. Good to hear from you Tim,hope you and your dad are doing well.

06-05-2023, 02:13 PM	#8
SuperStock fan Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 129 Likes: 4 Liked 239 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Only 48 Stockers at Epping?!? I'm confused about the track drying at Epping because all I see is a bunch of people using leaf blowers and other people standing around like it's a state job. The money nhra charges shouldn't they have their jet track dryers out? Talk about milking a job!