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Old 03-30-2023, 08:59 PM   #1
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I believe asking Marty to comment is out of bounds. It's wasn't within his Division (One).
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Old 03-30-2023, 09:05 PM   #2
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I believe asking Marty to comment is out of bounds. It's wasn't within his Division (One).
Frank I hate to say it, but you’re out of touch on this subject, you don’t know the details and didn’t read between the lines. Please refrain from commenting on this particular issue

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Old 03-30-2023, 10:12 PM   #3
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Gary,
You called me yesterday and we discussed the situation. I told you , I would look into this and get to the bottom of it……And I am!
Please forgive me for not getting back to you sooner, because we do have a business to run. I was not aware of who protested from the beginning and I’m insulted that you doubted my integrity.
Gary, I understand that this is a heated subject right now, so I don’t take offense to your personal attacks.
I know you’re angry, and being the SRAC rep makes me your easy target.
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Old 03-30-2023, 11:03 PM   #4
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Until you have been a victim of something like this you can not have any idea of how this makes you feel. Until you have been that victim you can not comment on how someone should feel.
I to was a victim of an unknown protest and I also knew who the protester was and NHRA would not admit it.
I also had support from other racers but that did not change the stigma associated with it and it still lingers years later. I am still upset about it as it was just vengeance by a racer who NHRA let get away with it scot free. No monetary or sanction of any kind.
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Old 03-31-2023, 07:26 AM   #5
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Old 03-31-2023, 08:03 AM   #6
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Gary,
You called me yesterday and we discussed the situation. I told you , I would look into this and get to the bottom of it……And I am!
Please forgive me for not getting back to you sooner, because we do have a business to run. I was not aware of who protested from the beginning and I’m insulted that you doubted my integrity.
Gary, I understand that this is a heated subject right now, so I don’t take offense to your personal attacks.
I know you’re angry, and being the SRAC rep makes me your easy target.
yes Marty i did call you yesterday,,,and replied to you the person related to this,,but i did talk to you the day after this protest,,,how many weeks ago was that?????,i believe it was a situation that was gona get sweep under the carpet,,i did not insult you ,,,i just want this brought to the table!!,,who should i target??,,maybe who protested me!
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Old 03-31-2023, 03:37 PM   #7
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Oops. Thread exploded/expanded while was typing. Glad its already cleared up.

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Old 03-31-2023, 06:43 PM   #8
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yes Marty i did call you yesterday,,,and replied to you the person related to this,,but i did talk to you the day after this protest,,,how many weeks ago was that?????,i believe it was a situation that was gona get sweep under the carpet,,i did not insult you ,,,i just want this brought to the table!!,,who should i target??,,maybe who protested me!
I feel you brother, this happened to me multiple times over the last 20 years in ihra from a well known delay box ford driver!!!! Hell, tech even came to my own personal shop and measured my hoods for legality! Of coarse i was legal, but it was on then after that. You may want to put some money on your adversary when y'all are at the same race...just saying!
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Old 04-02-2023, 12:02 PM   #9
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There is a NHRA Rule Book for a reason.. there are rules pertaining to protests for a reason.. there have been several incidents in recent years, where the governing body (NHRA) have not followed their own rules pertaining to protests.. or, for that matter, the timing of Tech Inspections during an event..

We also have the convenience of having SRAC reps, who many believe are the FIX ALL to the racer's problems.. from experience, I can assure you, this couldn't be farther from the truth.. but regardless, those SRAC reps always seem to find themselves in a lose-lose situation as a result of trying to help us out.. their efforts are appreciated by most racers.. most, if not all, racers know why the SRAC was created.. NUFF SAID!!

It's unfortunate that these incidents can have a really bad affect on serious class racers, as it quickly becomes personal.. NHRA does nothing to quell the anger caused by false accusations.. the accusers face no repercussions.. if money is put up to file a formal, and legitimate protest, and the protester loses his/her bid, they lose that money.. if one can protest via a phone call, or text, without posting the required fees, there is nothing to prevent them from repeating their nonsense.. this is where the SRAC should step in and demand sanctions.. BUT THEN, that's where who you are, and who you know kicks in..

I worked on a very well known team, both World and Divisional Champions many times over, who were protested at a Divisional Event for a hood scoop height violation.. NO MONEY was put up for the protest.. the supposed violation was rectified in less than 10 minutes by lowering the scoop EXACTLY 1/2", and the team was reinstated.. as a result, the team has NEVER returned to any Divisional Events, and would not race National Events in their home Division, as the same folks were always involved.. and the anger towards that Division, and the folks involved, has not yet diminished, 10 years later.. people taking sides, friendships gone, and the racing family doesn't really seem like much of a family anymore.. AND NO APOLOGIES HAVE EVER BEEN OFFERED BY ANY OF THE PARTIES!!!

One remedy might be for NHRA bigs to give up some of their un-deserved salaries, and bring back "competent" Tech Inspectors.. online tech cards and spot inspections are nonsense.. we all know that, as honest as most are, we can not police ourselves..

ALSO, and maybe it's just me, once eliminations start, tech inspections stop, unless such violations are blatantly obvious.. otherwise it just looks like sour grapes from folks who just got beat.. if Mr Tech finds something wrong after I just won the 5th round, I might get removed and punished, but what happens to those 5 racers that I already sent home??.. do they all get reinstated??.. do they all get points credits for winning the race, because potentially they might have??.. understand my point??

OOOOOOOORR, maybe we should all just have a NHRA Tech Guy on speed dial when we want to win a race.. YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S IT!!

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Old 04-02-2023, 03:26 PM   #10
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I worked on a very well known team, both World and Divisional Champions many times over, who were protested at a Divisional Event for a hood scoop height violation.. NO MONEY was put up for the protest.. the supposed violation was rectified in less than 10 minutes by lowering the scoop EXACTLY 1/2", and the team was reinstated.. as a result, the team has NEVER returned to any Divisional Events, and would not race National Events in their home Division, as the same folks were always involved.. and the anger towards that Division, and the folks involved, has not yet diminished, 10 years later.. people taking sides, friendships gone, and the racing family doesn't really seem like much of a family anymore.. AND NO APOLOGIES HAVE EVER BEEN OFFERED BY ANY OF THE PARTIES!!!
This part makes no sense Charlie. The way I read it, the protest was lodged and found to be legit. If the scoop was too tall, whether it's 1/2", 1/4", whatever, it's illegal based on the rules. Plus they were allowed to make it right. So said team stomps their feet and stops running events because they were illegal, intentional or not? Why should someone apologize for being right if the protested car was in fact not in accordance with the rules?
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