Could Top Stock Come Back?

Billy Nees · 02-12-2023, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Joey Bohannon

Billy, i am not referring to "racers" but NHRA and the Factories have made it clear they aren't. You would have a better shot at the NMCA.

Joey, IMHO I believe that sometime soon NHRA is going to have to slim things down. I don't know how or what they're going to do but beyond 2024 only the Mustang will be around and FFFord isn't all that interested in them (NHRA).
I kinda/sorta have a feeling that the FS/FX stuff is going to become the future of S/SS and TD/TS will be the same for S/G S/C AT a Natl. Event level. I'm led to believe this based on what they're (NHRA) allowing for entries at their events. I believe that they're trying to get us USED to not being able to get into their events. I think that we'll always (for as long as they last) be welcome at Div.s and Opens just not Natl.s.
Think about it, FS/FX and TS/TD are easier to police for them and easier to understand for their "paying customers" who are (apparently) their main concern.
I guess where I'm going with this is...............
it sure would be a lot easier to call FS "Top Stock", wouldn't it.

Mark Yacavone · 02-12-2023, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I believe that they're trying to get us USED to not being able to get into their events. I think that we'll always (for as long as they last) be welcome at Div.s and Opens just not Natl.s.
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Has anyone noticed that class run offs, for the most part, are at Divisionals now?

Larry Hill · 02-12-2023, 02:35 PM

Uncle Al spanked several folks that year. He showed everyone that the LS cars were way superior to all of the old carb stuff at Indy that year. Al and Lester tore down and were legal. I think Bryan the brain did the tune. He kicked me real bad, he ran more 1/8 mph than he ran 1/4 mph. I think it was that dominant performance by him that caused NHRA the have the FI classes next year. After he sold the car I raced it for class and had a better light and barely turned on the win light.

Top Stock would be fun but I would not sell my hart and sold to the Devil for a tenth of a second anymore.

B Parker · 02-14-2023, 03:53 PM

Having run Top Stock (Dave Ley) rules multiple times it's the most fun you can have keeping your cloths on. I would not only run the class but get involved with some sponsorship money. I Have never run an LS combo. So maybe Al or someone could help me out with this one. I see that the LS is rated in a Camaro at 382 hp but in the Corvette at only 350. That would make the Corvette about 300 lbs. less in weight than the Camaro. Old school math would be about 3 tenths quicker. I would think just looking at both cars the Corvette is more aerodynamic then the Camaro. Why the big difference? So do they have to run stock brakes? Is being more aerodynamic hurting performance by that much? Do they have to put on a different throttle body? Please help me out on this one.

If the class was to catch on and run at several events. Anyone want to sell me one of these handicapped Corvettes. If you can't make it run fast enough at that weight I'd like to have a shot at it

I might have to give my old car away. I see that nobody is interested in them. LOL BP

Mike Pearson · 02-14-2023, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Joey, IMHO I believe that sometime soon NHRA is going to have to slim things down. I don't know how or what they're going to do but beyond 2024 only the Mustang will be around and FFFord isn't all that interested in them (NHRA).
I kinda/sorta have a feeling that the FS/FX stuff is going to become the future of S/SS and TD/TS will be the same for S/G S/C AT a Natl. Event level. I'm led to believe this based on what they're (NHRA) allowing for entries at their events. I believe that they're trying to get us USED to not being able to get into their events. I think that we'll always (for as long as they last) be welcome at Div.s and Opens just not Natl.s.
Think about it, FS/FX and TS/TD are easier to police for them and easier to understand for their "paying customers" who are (apparently) their main concern.
I guess where I'm going with this is...............
it sure would be a lot easier to call FS "Top Stock", wouldn't it.

I dont think that will be the case anytime soon. There is over 1700 cars that competed for national points in stock and super stock last year. There is nowhere near that many in FS and FX to take over. Too much money coming from the sportsman classes that they have now. Once the factories stop producing the COPO, Drag Pack and CJ mustangs the parts will become unavailable unless the aftermarket steps in.
I dont know what the future of our classes holds but by looking at the age of most of the competeitors it wont be around for ever.

02-12-2023, 02:35 PM	#3
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02-14-2023, 03:53 PM	#4
B Parker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 852 Likes: 991 Liked 2,343 Times in 465 Posts	Re: Could Top Stock Come Back? Having run Top Stock (Dave Ley) rules multiple times it's the most fun you can have keeping your cloths on. I would not only run the class but get involved with some sponsorship money. I Have never run an LS combo. So maybe Al or someone could help me out with this one. I see that the LS is rated in a Camaro at 382 hp but in the Corvette at only 350. That would make the Corvette about 300 lbs. less in weight than the Camaro. Old school math would be about 3 tenths quicker. I would think just looking at both cars the Corvette is more aerodynamic then the Camaro. Why the big difference? So do they have to run stock brakes? Is being more aerodynamic hurting performance by that much? Do they have to put on a different throttle body? Please help me out on this one. If the class was to catch on and run at several events. Anyone want to sell me one of these handicapped Corvettes. If you can't make it run fast enough at that weight I'd like to have a shot at it I might have to give my old car away. I see that nobody is interested in them. LOL BP Last edited by B Parker; 02-14-2023 at 04:32 PM.