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Old 02-08-2023, 12:18 PM   #1
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and others ' i have actually been working on a Full program for a new Jr stock eliminator - so i suppose i will just add top stock to it.
More later, i have sponsors -including myself who have expressed interest. perhaps we should meet at gainsville. Rock
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Old 02-08-2023, 12:35 PM   #2
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and others ' i have actually been working on a Full program for a new Jr stock eliminator - so i suppose i will just add top stock to it.
More later, i have sponsors -including myself who have expressed interest. perhaps we should meet at gainsville. Rock
Good morning Professor and all,
I would enjoy taking you up on your offer to meet at Gainesville, but can't do so at this time. Work and time won't allow at this point. Don't let that stop your progress with this.
There will be a few obstacles you'll have to endure, Maybe you should reach out to Mr. Dave Ley and get some insight from him. At this point in time I would say he's the Subject Matter Expert. Please continue to fight the good fight.
Have a Great Day.

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Old 02-08-2023, 01:19 PM   #3
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and others ' i have actually been working on a Full program for a new Jr stock eliminator - so i suppose i will just add top stock to it.
More later, i have sponsors -including myself who have expressed interest. perhaps we should meet at gainsville. Rock
Are you talking about a heads up, no break out one weight break class ?????
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Old 02-08-2023, 01:40 PM   #4
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SO .... why did it die in the first place?
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We had it at the IHRA National events we had at Grand Bend it was great. From what I knew the tech was very hard to police, it's hard to find people that want to spend all night taking their engines apart . It's also hard to take the oil pan off on first gen cars.
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We had it at the IHRA National events we had at Grand Bend it was great. From what I knew the tech was very hard to police, it's hard to find people that want to spend all night taking their engines apart . It's also hard to take the oil pan off on first gen cars.
The IHRA version of Top Stock got out of hand way too fast. I got a bunch of parts together to build a Buick GS. By the time that I was ready to start the build the combination was no longer viable!

What I am talking about is A, B, C Stockers having a little fun within the existing NHRA rules.
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Old 02-08-2023, 03:07 PM   #7
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I put some sponsorship money up in 2006- 2007 with Dick Butler when he was really trying to get it going with NHRA. I even built a 2003 Cobra for the class, but it all kinda faded away. When they ran at the US Class Nationals in 2001 it was awesome!! Hopefully some day it can be reality and stick around.





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Old 02-08-2023, 03:53 PM   #8
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I love Top Stock, I worked with Dick Butler when he tried to revive it a few years back. He and I sponsored Top Stock and Top Super Stock at Bowling Green out of our own pockets.


I think Top Stock is viable, however, you need only look at the quota issues this year to see that it is not going to happen at NHRA national events. Especially if you exclude the FS/FX cars, which you obviously should do.


Bret is correct, there are a few cars that a 2001 cutoff would exclude that should be included. How about 2005-2006? Or just no FS/FX cars?



Where Top Stock is possible is at the National Open events, and the LODRS events. You'll need to gain some cooperation, and some sponsors. Friendly tracks such as Bowling Green, with Broc Porter managing it, will work with you, within reason.



While Todd is correct, making it 8.0# per HP may make it easier for a few AA cars to enter, that really just makes it A/S-A/SA heads up. Honestly, it excludes more of the C and D cars that move up, and try to play "giant killer", which tends to involve a few more cars, AND gives the crowd some underdogs to cheer. We had a couple of natural D cars run at Bowling Green, and they had a decent showing, as well as a good time. When we race, we run AA/SA, we have a 435HP combination, and have considered a 445HP combination. So we also understand where the AA guys come from when they say that they don't like the 8.25# weight break. But I think it needs to stay at 8.25#.


The continuing popularity of the A Stick challenge at Indy shows that there is interest in something such as Top Stock, among racers, spectators, and even a few sponsors. And I think that's how/where you start the return of Top Stock.
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Old 02-08-2023, 03:31 PM   #9
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and others ' i have actually been working on a Full program for a new Jr stock eliminator - so i suppose i will just add top stock to it.
More later, i have sponsors -including myself who have expressed interest. perhaps we should meet at gainsville. Rock

Our trailer company has in the past sponsored or co-sponsored
independent stock and superstock combos on the West Coast
for a number of years.
We would be interested in co-sponsoring and participating in
a Western Jr. Stock race.
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